The *Official* Top 200 Video Games countdown #1: The Game That ALWAYS Wins

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  1. Handmaiden Yané Manager Emeritus

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    Just to clarify, the next tournament will be like this where you nominate characters and then the users vote on them until we have a winner.

    It isn't like this countdown where you submit games and then I compile a list and then post the results.
  2. Sabre_11 Jedi Grand Master

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    Ahhhh, gotcha.

    Well, I still need to think of characters anyway :p
  3. Darth_Omega Force Ghost

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    If you're going to make a video game character list make sure to exclude characters based on other media, you don't want Darth Vader to end up first because of his appearance in Super The Empire Strikes Back. :)

    Which brings me to KotoR, its a well polished and fun game but it would not made in the top 20 if this wasn't a Star Wars forum. :p

    Anyway thanks for hosting this Yane, also out of curiousity can you list the number of votes (total points) each game received (or just the top 10 if its too many)

    If you're not convinced I suggest you play LttP walk from the second dungeon towards the third dungeon (bottom left towards upper right), and then you'll know what I'm talking about with taking detours (especially if you walk the same path in OoT) If you're still not convinced after that then I won't bother with someone who's stubborn. :p
  4. Handmaiden Yané Manager Emeritus

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    You're welcome. :)


    I don't know about that. It did garner a lot of critical acclaim (many GOTY awards) and I hear a lot about it IRL as well. BioWare is just awesome.



    Yeah, I was going to have the nominations include the character name with the video game they're featured in. For example, I think that Vader from the new Force Unleashed game might be a viable nominee (but I'm making a rule that no unreleased video games are to be included from here on out! haha...but seriously...)

    It has to be a video game character with a legitimate video game presence for it to be nominated, IMO.


    I'll post the number of votes for the Top Ten later on (hopefully in the next half hour) when I post the KOTOR comments as well.
  5. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    No, no Vader whatsoever. To qualify the character should have first appeared in a video game (disqualifying tie-in games released before the original source, ie: Movie X vs Movie X: The Video Game).

    I'd say that the only exceptions could be made on a case-by-case basis regarding characters who originated from other sources, but are probably most well known from their video game exploits (Sam & Max, for a possible example).


    I'm not saying I couldn't be wrong here, just that iw ouldn't be surprised if ALTTP did outdo OOT in footage, but I'll have to sit down and take a stab at it.
  6. Handmaiden Yané Manager Emeritus

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    Hmmmmmmmm...okay. :p I agree with Quest.


    Top Ten and the # of Votes:

    Star Wars: TIE Fighter- 147
    Half-Life 2- 152
    Halo- 156
    Super Mario World- 172
    Super Mario Bros.- 199
    Super Mario Bros. 3- 228
    The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past- 239
    Golden Eye 007- 246
    The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time- 409
    Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic- 442

    Comments for Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
    :

    "The greatest Star Wars game ever made. Excellent story. Excellent gameplay. Almost flawless."

    "my first ever RPG. And what a great one, the story, the gameplay, the characters - and the surprise, and what a surprise it was - did anyone actually see that coming?"

    "Honestly, this is the best RPG I think I've ever played. It really got me into the role playing elements, and I greatly enjoyed a mix of strategic and real time battles. My only gripe is that I wish there was more. Not of the plot, but more areas to explore. Someone talks about Manann having a large shopping area that I should visit. Well, guess what? I want to go there! And why does the hotel on Manann only have four rooms? The weakness of the game was the lack of truly vast environments, which was a limit of the technology more than anything."

    "The premiere Star Wars game of the modern generation. It's one of the finest RPGs I've ever played, with an amazing story and characters filled to the brim with depth, and it's all set in the Star Wars universe. I mean, that just spells awesome."

    "The best Star Wars game to date, easily. While KOTORII arguably has the better gameplay, this was the original which brought us the awesomeness of Revan and, HK-47 and Canderous Ordo. Yes, we had Tatooine for the umpteenth time, but I loved all the quests on that planet. I thought the story was better than II as well. Most importantly of all, it felt like Star Wars!"

    "Fantastic story, freedom to develop dark to light, good or bad. Seduce or kill Bastilla etc..."

    "Fascinating characters, and an excellent script. Sure, the combat's a bit lackluster, but KOTOR's story surpasses its flaws."




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  7. DarthBobbalot Jedi Grand Master

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    Man, if only id heard about this before, im really astounded FFIX isnt on the list out of 200 games.

    And yane, did i create that dream about obi wan when i made that post the day before :p
  8. Handmaiden Yané Manager Emeritus

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    Um, I'm pretty sure FFIX is on the list...I think so, at least.


    Yes, you did. :p Thanks a lot!
  9. DarthBobbalot Jedi Grand Master

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    oh it is?! I thought i did a search on teh whole list and it didnt come up. Oh well. Sorry about that dream too lol although tbh i didnt think it was as horrible a game as everyone else in teh world seems to think of it.
  10. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    KOTOR II Xbox - 113

    KOTOR Xbox - 1

    Armored Core Playstation - 176

    Street Fighter II -43

    Spy Hunter - 142

    Street Fighter, original - did not make the list. :mad:

    Armored Core Master of Arena - did not make the list. :mad:

    Super Metroid SNES - 63

    Legend Of Zelda A Link To The Past SNES - 4

    Halo - 8

    Halo 2 - 31

    Crimson Skies Xbox - did not make the list. :mad:

    Marvel Ultimate Alliance Xbox - did not make the list. :mad:

    Marvel Vs Capcom did not make the list but 32 did.

    Cyberball arcade - did not make the list. :mad:

    Road Rash - did not make the list. :mad:

    Paperboy - did not make the list. :mad:

    Discs of Tron Arcade - did not make the list :mad:

    There's more but my feelings are hurt. [face_not_talking]
  11. Jango10 Force Ghost

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    Here's my list, where they ranked at will be in bold.

    1. Halo 2 (31)
    2. Mario Kart 64 (21)
    3. Goldeneye 007 (3)
    4. Halo 3 (28)
    5. Super Mario Bros. 3 (5)
    6. Super Smash Bros. (132)
    7. Super Mario 64 (14)
    8. Mass Effect (16)
    9. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (1)
    10. Super Mario World (7)
    11. Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory (N/A)
    12. Banjo-Kazooie (104)
    13. Halo (8)
    14. Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood (N/A)
    15. Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords (11)
    16. Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest (50)
    17. Super Mario Bros. (6)
    18. Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30 (N/A)
    19. Guitar Hero III (80)
    20. Star Wars: Battlefront (96)
  12. Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One

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    1. Super Mario Bros. (6)
    2. Super Mario Bros. 3 (5)
    3. Myst (73)
    4. StarCraft (30)
    5. Super Mario World (7)
    6. Sonic The Hedgehog 2 (101)
    7. Super Mario Kart (48)
    8. Duck Hunt (117)
    9. Gunstar Heroes (N/A)
    10. Jazz Jackrabbit (N/A) (:_|)
    11. Unreal Tournament (74)
    12. Sam & Max Hit The Road (N/A)
    13. King's Quest VI: Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow (N/A)
    14. NBA Jam (N/A)
    15. Quake (N/A)
    16. Street Fighter II (43)
    17. NHL 94 (N/A)
    18. The Legend Of Zelda: A Link To The Past (4)
    19. One Must Fall 2097 (N/A)
    20. Half-Life: Counter-Strike (N/A)

    I cannot believe some of these games didn't even make the list, especially Quake and CS.
  13. Handmaiden Yané Manager Emeritus

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    I've lied to you all.


    #1 was actually Jazz Jackrabbit! :p








    Anyway. I'm thinking of starting the new tournament sometime next week. Keep an eye out for it! :)
  14. MarcusP2 Games and Community Reaper

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    1. Baldur's Gate 2 (58)
    2. Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2 (105)
    3. Guitar Hero 2 (62)
    4. Civilization 2 (18)
    5. NBA Street (178)
    6. Grim Fandango (71)
    7. Planescape Torment (NOT ON THE LIST. YOU ALL FAIL.)
    8. Day of the Tentacle (again.)
    9. Final Fantasy VII (24)
    10. Quest for Glory 2 (Nope)
    11. Sam'n'Max (Nope)
    12. Ratchet and Clank: Locked and Loaded/Going Commando (Nope)
    13. Broken Sword/Circle of Blood (Nope)
    14. Fate of Atlantis (171)
    15. Final Fantasy XII (No.)
    16. GTA: San Andreas (60)
    17. Quest for Glory 4 (no.)
    18. Chrono Trigger (25)
    19. Tekken 3 (nope.)
    20. SSX Tricky (nope).

    Seems my tastes vary wildly from most...and I think you can tell I have never owned a Nintendo console. :p
  15. DarthIntegral Force Ghost

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    everyone else is doing it, I may as well ...

    1. Final Fantasy VI III/VI (#46 :())
    2. Chrono Trigger (#25)
    3. The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (#4)
    4. Super Mario Bros 3 (#5)
    5. Oregon Trail (#90 [face_not_talking])
    6. The Legend of Zelda (#37 [face_not_talking])
    7. Mike Tyson's Punchout (#56)
    8. Animal Crossing (not ranked :eek:)
    9. Tecmo Bowl (not ranked :mad:)
    10. Mega Man 2 (#67)
    11. Dragon Warrior (not ranked :mad:)
    12. Castlevania 2: Simon's Quest (not ranked :mad:)
    13. Star Wars: Tie Fighter (#10)
    14. Street Fighter 2 (#43)
    15. Sim City 2000 (#59)
    16. Mario Kart ($48)
    17. Wario Ware (#116)
    18. Super Monkey Ball 2 (not ranked)
    19. Virtua Athlete 2k (not ranked)
    20. Wii Sports (not ranked)

    So, I ranked three top ten games, and seven games that didn't make the top 200.
  16. Handmaiden Yané Manager Emeritus

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    So if everyone was jumping off a bridge...?


    :p
  17. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    1) Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past (#4)
    2) Super Mario Bros 3 (#5)
    3) Super Metroid (#63- fools!)
    4) GoldenEye (#3)
    5) Mario Kart DS (#143)
    6) Illusion of Gaia (unranked- fools!)
    7) Starcraft (#30)
    8) Chrono Trigger (#25)
    9) Mortal Kombat 2 (#81)
    10) Donkey Kong Country (#65)
    11) Contra (#57)
    12) Mega Man 2 (#67)
    13) Marvel vs Capcom 2 (#121)
    14) Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening (#45)
    15) Starfox 64 (...what the heck? how the hell did this not rank? Do a barrel roll!)
    16) The Lost Vikings (not ranked- fools!)
    17) Super Smash Bros Melee (#12)
    18) Eternal Darkness (#131)
    19) Viewtiful Joe (not ranked- fools!)
    20) Rogue Squadron 2: Rogue Leader (not ranked- fools!)
  18. Darth_Omega Force Ghost

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    1. Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time (N64) (2)
    2. Metroid Prime (GC) (19)
    3. Super Mario Bros. 3 (NES) (5)
    4. World of Warcraft (PC) (35)
    5. Chrono Trigger (SNES) (25)
    6. Pokémon Gold/Silver (GBC) (69)
    7. Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past. (SNES) (4)
    8. Super Mario 64 (N64) (14)
    9. Golden Sun: The Lost Age (GBA) (155)
    10. Goldeneye 64 (N64) (3)
    11. Mario Kart 64 (N64) (21)
    12. Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (GC) (26)
    13. Civilization IV (PC) (61)
    14. Megaman X (SNES/PC) (N/A)
    15. Kirby Super Star (SNES) (139)
    16. Rogue Squadron (N64) (23)
    17. Warcraft III (PC) (N/A)
    18. Jedi Outcast (PC) (22)
    19. Donkey Kong Land 2 (GB) (N/A) but country 2 is at 50
    20. Diablo II (PC) (44)
  19. HL&S Magistrate Emeritus

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    Years ago, I did a video games tournament in community and Ocarina of Time won. I can't remember if KOTOR was even out at the time to be in it.
  20. Boba_Fett_2001 Chosen One

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    Ah yes, that was good times especially between myself and Omegatron. And KOTOR was out at that time.

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  21. Rogue...Jedi Administrator Emeritus

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    1. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
    6. Super Mario Bros.
    10. Star Wars: TIE Fighter
    11. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II
    18. Civilization II
    22. Star Wars: Jedi Knight II: Jedi Outcast
    23. Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
    27. Tetris
    40. Age of Mythology
    48. Super Mario Kart
    49. Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Jedi Academy
    54. Age of Empires II: Age of Kings
    59. Sim City 2000
    61. Civilization IV
    83. Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2 (PC)
    89. Star Wars: Rebellion
    90. The Oregon Trail
    96. Star Wars: Battlefront
    103. Command and Conquer: Red Alert
    107. Roller Coaster Tycoon
    113. Star Wars: Jedi Knight: Dark Forces II
    115. Sim City 3000
    129. Star Wars: X-Wing vs TIE Fighter
    133. Ms. Pac Man
    135. Medieval: Total War
    136. Zoo Tycoon
    165. Rome: Total War
    166. Sim City
    177. NCAA Football 2008
    185. Sim City 4
    191. Rise of Nations: Thrones and Patriots

    Those are the ones I've played, and I have to agree that they all should be on this list.

    Quite impressive, good work Yane!
  22. Handmaiden Yané Manager Emeritus

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    Thanks. :D


    So I was thinking...I'll start that tournament sometime next week?
  23. DarthBobbalot Jedi Grand Master

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    ill participate this time. Its gonna be best character in a game this time?
  24. Vengance1003 Jedi Grand Master

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    Could we sabotage KOTOR's chance at winning?
  25. Hammurabi Force Ghost

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    Prediction: between Jolee Bindo and a certain assassination droid, it will be difficult for another game to dislodge the champion.
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