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Fanclub The One Canon - the Legends Defence Force - From Endor to Jakku - Legends friendly timeline is up!

Discussion in 'EU Community' started by Sinrebirth, Sep 20, 2015.

  1. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    Of course, I once jokingly believed that when Nero (Star Trek 2009) traveled back in time, and since that was also directed by JJ Abrams, it affected the Star Wars universe as well. :p
     
  2. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    One Canon - the Death Star Timeline

    Rogue Planet - Seinar passes the preliminary plans for the battlemoon to Tarkin, who passes them to Palpatine, claiming all of the credit.

    Attack of the Clones - Darth Tyranus returns said plans to Darth Sidious, who creates the belief within the Republic that the Separatists are creating this superweapon. During the war, efforts to research said weapon are performed by each of the Sith and their respective factions, resulting in the destruction of Equanus (Medstar Duology), various pocket superweapons that the Republic destroy (various), and experimentation using crystals from Christophsis in the place of Kyber crystals (Jedi Alliance DS game). A shadow war over crystals, large and small, Kyber or otherwise, occurs behind the scenes during the Clone Wars (Utapau Clone Wars arc, Battlefront II), including battles over scientists specialising in the field while the Republic, in the wake of the Second Battle of Geonosis, begins construction of the Death Star there (Catalyst).

    Revenge of the Sith - the skeleton of the Death Star is managed by Krennic, who periodically butts heads with Tarkin, himself who, after the Western Reaches are pacified and the massacre at Antar 4 occurs, is put in charge of the Death Star's defence. Jockeying around its construction occurs, including various sabotage attempts by isolated groups (Catalyst, Tarkin).

    Force Unleashed - Palpatine, in a pique of arrogance, seizes and takes the leaders of the new Rebel Alliance, initially those cells from Corellia, Chandrila and Alderaan - but later including cells from other sectors including the Onderon, Mon Calamari, Lothal, Bryx, Kwymar and Atrivis cells - to the Despayre system where the Death Star is currently under construction, two years before the Battle of Yavin. Bail, Leia, Mon, Rahm and Garm opt to keep secret the battlestation from the wider Rebellion and obtain solid data on its existence to present to the Senate, all the while amassing the strength to oppose the Empire, in order to prevent a panic. (TFU, Rebels, various)

    TFU II - Kamino is attacked by the Rebels but the net result of the 'capture of Darth Vader' is that the Rebels abandon the Dantooine base. Starkiller, Rahm Kota and Juno Eclipse depart the Rebellion after this point in time though they are instrumental in bringing Mon Calamari more into the Alliance. (Necessary conjecture).

    Rogue One - the Death Star comes into the knowledge of the wider Rebellion, having previously been kept to a small circle of Rebels so as to avoid widespread panic; a Rebellion within the Rebellion. As events prove, the Council fractures after Jedha is destroyed, and as the Death Star returns back to its hiding place at Despayre, Mon dispatches a single Lucrehulk to attempt to damage the superweapon.

    This follows Mon and Bail secretly proposing to send Leia, once the Tantive IV is repaired, to Tatooine to pick up Kenobi even as the Council refuses to proceed any further, as evidenced in the film. Mon herself even personally recruits an agent for the Danuta mission.

    Mon and Bail, coordinating various Rebels cells led by Kyle Katarn, Bria Tharen and others, had already began efforts to gather the various parts of the Death Star plans, having avoided striking at Scarif as a fortress world. When Rogue One goes, as one expects, rogue, portions of the Alliance military follow, including the Lothal cell, taking the Tantive IV with them before it can launch to collect the transmissions from Toprawa, which had combined various sources to create a full schematic - there was little point cancelling said missions across the galaxy as the Scarif mission, although it was a mission which itself would have seized a full schematic, as the Scarif attack was an extreme long shot, as were all of the other attacks across the galaxy; if any one mission failed at Scarif, Danuta, Toprawa, or so on, the Rebellion would not have had anything, and nor could Mon and Bail take it as a matter of faith that the Scarif tapes were complete.

    As serendipity would have it, all the missions succeeded and the Alliance had a full schematic to hand, though all of the attacks suffered terrible losses, save for the one at Danuta. Leia jumps to Toprawa and then to Tatooine, with Darth Vader in hot pursuit, as the Death Star returns from Jedha to Despayre, completing the first full weapons test. (Death Star, Dark Forces, Rebel Dawn, and so forth)


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  3. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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  4. Lady Belligerent

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    You've tied it up neatly!!
     
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  5. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    Nicely done, Sinrebirth

    I can picture Tarkin saying to Reith Sienar: "The circle is now complete. When I left you, I was but an interested party; now I am the master (of the Death Star)." :D
     
  6. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Master star 4

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    This might not bother other people as much but at the end of R1 the tantive IV escapes the rebel cruiser as Vader is chasing for the plans.

    It doesn't gel well with the first scene of ANH at all Leia insists that there on a peaceful mission and threatens to rat them out to the imperial senate.

    How exactly can she plausibly claim to be on a peaceful mission when Vader just saw her and her ship escaping from a battle presumably weeks or months before ANH?

    Anyway Sinrebirth a couple of questions when do you think Vader escaped(timewise) after TFUII? What happened to the marek clone, Juno eclipse and Rahm Kota?
     
  7. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    No sources post-date Alderaan for either three. Being as the Dantooine base was destroyed by a traitor, I could easily imply the Dark Apprentice smashes it. Presumably he escapes Rebel clutches before Death Star. Not an awful margin for error there, as TFU II potentially predates even the Lothal-Malachor engagements.

    As to Leia telling Vader she's a diplomat, that's a lie created by canon, not by me. It's purely a bald faced lie. Nothing more or less.


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  8. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    Not to mention Vader himself kind of lied by accusing them of intercepting transmissions, when it was really a disk. Captain Antilles was telling the truth when he said they intercepted no transmissions. It was the truth, from a certain point of view.
     
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  9. Kev-Mas_Colcha

    Kev-Mas_Colcha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I thought TFU II was non-canon even in legends canon though?
     
  10. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Nope. Still canon in Legends.


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  11. Kev-Mas_Colcha

    Kev-Mas_Colcha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Weird... cause it totally doesn't even make sense as to how it would be canon even then. *shrugs*

    I guess I'm biased though, in that I never really liked the story for TFU in general. It just conflicts too much with pre-existing EU material, which tended to be a problem with anything that was explicitly endorsed by the flanneled one like TFU was (same issue arose with a certain TCW episode that single handedly wrote the Medstar Duology out of the continuity).
     
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  12. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    Well we know Dantooine was abandoned following a betrayal from the inside (clone Starkiller mix up anyone?).

    I do love how you love the Shadow Guards but not the game idea.

    What episode hurt the MedStar Duology?


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  13. Kev-Mas_Colcha

    Kev-Mas_Colcha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I like certain details from the games, but the overall story just reeks of bad writing. It seems like the creative direction was great but the writing was lackluster, which is a common problem with most modern video games.

    I think the episode in question is "The Wrong Jedi", due to the fact that Barriss Offee could not have reasonably appeared in both as it would assume that she could be in two places at once.
     
  14. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    The Wrong Jedi takes place over two years into the war, so after the MedStar Duology, as I recall.


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  15. Grievousdude

    Grievousdude Jedi Master star 4

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    The citadel arc is the hardest to match up with Canon due to the death of Even Piell. In Legends he died just after Order 66.
     
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  16. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    The Piell in the Coruscant Nights has two eyes so it can be treated as a separate Piell if you feel like it.

    And Adi simply survives Obsession.


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  17. Kev-Mas_Colcha

    Kev-Mas_Colcha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Both take place in 20 BBY, according to Wookieepedia.
     
  18. Anakin.Skywalker

    Anakin.Skywalker Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    *sees thread and is interested*

    *sees EU content*

    *understands nothing*

    *walks out*
     
  19. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    22 BBY month 3 war starts.

    20 BBY month 3 is MedStar.

    Ahsoka leaves the Jedi Order towards the latter half of 20 BBY.

    War ends in 19 BBY month 3.


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  20. Kev-Mas_Colcha

    Kev-Mas_Colcha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Ah, I guess that makes a little more sense now.
     
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  21. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    And even then, Ofee and Depa are rehabilitated and let out in time for Order 66.


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  22. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    With that timeline, could Bariss's experience with the bota in the MedStar duology have affected her, leaving her open to "losing it?"
     
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  23. Kev-Mas_Colcha

    Kev-Mas_Colcha Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    That's actually a really good point...

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  24. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    That's my take of it.
     
  25. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Master star 4

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    Sinrebirth for the events of R1 TFU 1 and 2 and ANH how much time passed overall. That's a very tight fit to have all of them happening in a span of mere months or even weeks.

    A whole year or two? Six months?