Heh. I almost cried when I re-read the JAT this past summer. It just pains me to read such... such... uh, yeah, you understand where I'm going with that. But I do want to say one thing kind of quickly about this whole grammar thing. I don't know how many of you have taken a linguistics class or read a linguistics book recently, but I've spent entire semesters so far at college studying how all languages and dialects are equal, and that the rules in our grammar books are insufficient because most of them don't even correspond to the actual English language now. They're prescriptive--meaning they give somewhat arbitrary rules to follow--rather than descriptive--which would be more like a discussion of what is and is not structurally acceptable (at a deeper level than grammar) in various dialects. Plus there's the inescapable fact that our "standard grammar" for English is just a description of standard usage for the dialect of the dominant social group (in the US, middle-class white English; in other places, I don't know). I see the truth in a lot of that, but I do know that learning strict rules for writing has helped me a lot in being able to see where they work and where they don't. I also know, on the other hand, that I used to talk like a book and my friends used to punch me (in jest!) whenever they didn't understand a word I said. So I moved to California for college, dropped my proper speech, and now make every sentence a "dude" or "like" sandwich. I've also read some really excellent books that used other dialects of English as the framework for narration (one of my favorites being The Color Midnight Made by Andrew Winer). The point is that, in some ways, we're following a pretty arbitrary standard when we follow those grammar rules completely. Language is a flexible thing, so we shouldn't be afraid to use it flexibly. We just need to be faithful to the characters, more than anything. I, for one, would be interested to read a story with the narrative voice of an Agamarian hick. If I had any writing talent at all, I'd attempt it, but for now it's going in my long list of plot bunnies should I ever get a call back from an unemployed muse.