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Clone Wars The Petition to Disney: Save The Clone Wars

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by Watto, Feb 8, 2013.

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  1. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Backpacking One Pack a Day Mod of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I liked Mortis.

    I'm not sure exactly how it was supposed to fit in overall, but I liked it.
     
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  2. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    It had a connection to the films.

     
  3. MistrX

    MistrX Jedi Master star 4

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    Yeah, either way, Disney didn't cancel the show because some fans thought it was going downhill and others thought it was only getting better. Shows are rarely canceled solely because their stories are of some level of quality.
     
  4. Darth_Zandalor

    Darth_Zandalor Jedi Master star 4

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    Only a sith deals in absolutes.
     
  5. MistrX

    MistrX Jedi Master star 4

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    Not sure that one really applies there.
     
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  6. Darth_Zandalor

    Darth_Zandalor Jedi Master star 4

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    Saying that Mortis cannot be crap because you therefore must also hate the cave in Empire Strikes Back sure sounds like an absolute to me. You must accept both as the same rather than having multiple opinions
     
  7. MistrX

    MistrX Jedi Master star 4

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    I guess I just don't see a simile as an absolute.
     
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  8. 07jonesj

    07jonesj Jedi Master star 4

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    Oh damn, this argument just got similied.
     
  9. Darth_Zandalor

    Darth_Zandalor Jedi Master star 4

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    Oh no he didn't. Its how a bear is like a panda. Similes everywhere!
     
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  10. fett 4

    fett 4 Force Ghost star 5

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    Which in itself is an Absolute
     
  11. darthcaedus1138

    darthcaedus1138 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I have less of a problem with how Ahsoka chooses to dress herself, and more of a problem with the fact that this is how she's shown. Girls wear these sort of things. I get it, and I don't necessarily have a problem with it. But when you show me a Jedi Youngling, I expect robes. Hell when you show me any Jedi I expect robes. Matters of practicality, basic decency for a group of monastic warrior-knights, especially in underage children, and especially in a war zone. Karen Traviss goes out of the way to point this out. You don't see Katooni running around in a tube top. Sex is not bad. Sexiness is not bad. But displaying 'sexiness' younger and younger scares the hell out of me. In any school, Ahsoka's form of dress would be disbarred. And she's school aged. It's not the character here that's bad, it's how the character is being chosen to be dressed.

    Oh and Mortis is incredibly problematic. I'm not really sure how to take it, and I'm not really sure what to take from it. Their callbacks, references, and sybolisms are so random and mixed up that it just becomes this morass of ambiguity. And not in a good way. In a bad way. Yet, I like a lot of what was presented.

    Oh and I had a dream that Savage was fighting in some sort of arena area with Son. So I don't know what to make of that.
     
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  12. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Lets take the stuff about what Ahsoka wears to one of the Ahsoka threads please.
     
  13. GGrievous

    GGrievous Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    More like 'please, not another Ahsoka clothing discussion.'
     
  14. Watto

    Watto Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I am seeing a lot of exposure for Clone Wars in mainstream press now after the cancellation, and lots of folks speaking up in the twitter-verse. This includes regular folks who aren't as engaged on the behind the scenes stuff as us, folks who just enjoy watching with their kids on the weekend. I am inclined to think that this letter-writing campaign to Disney and Lucasfilm is more relevant than ever now that people are attentive and that there is something to protest. The fact remains that Lucasfilm Animation can finish up episodes from Seasons 6, 7, and (although unlikely) 8 if we keep rallying for it. They have the means to produce and distribute this content anywhere and everywhere if we as fans demand it.

    Keep sending those letters! Attn: Bob Iger, Kathleen Kennedy, and Dave Filoni.
     
  15. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It probably won't hurt to keep sending letters. I also say keep writing. Maybe I'll do a second round for myself and my sidekick. When in doubt spam. It has been gratifying to see mainstream press slamming Disney. Its about time something like that happened in response to something like this. It kinda is like taking candy from babies with how popular this show is with kids. I don't care if it really was them or Kathleen Kennedy. I'm interested to see it Disney we'll come out and say anything else.
     
  16. Darth_Harmon

    Darth_Harmon Jedi Master star 4

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    At best, a heavy stream of more letters could mean one or two more arcs. I mean, if behind the scenes Dave is trying to get a final arc approved that will tie into the Battle of Coruscant, a load of letters could help him get a "yes" from the higher ups.
     
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  17. phatdude1138

    phatdude1138 Jedi Master star 4

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  18. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    And yet the Disney logo is behind her there.
     
  19. Mia Mesharad

    Mia Mesharad Jedi Master star 4

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    What you're saying here is just fine. The oversexualization of female characters in media, especially the sexualization of young female characters, is a problem and one that should be called out.

    It's the idea that Ahsoka, as a character, is ****** because of the way she theoretically chooses to dress, or that a person's manner of clothing is enough to label them a ****, or that a woman of the real or fictional persuasion is pejoratively declared a slut at all because she engages in behavior you (this is a generalized "you") unilaterally deem inappropriate—these are also problematic and should likewise be called out.

    And so as to not derail the thread further, that'll be the last I have to say on that here.
    Uh, keep up those letters and stuff!
     
  20. Watto

    Watto Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Got it, Mia Mesharad I will make sure to remain respectful to the awesome female Star Wars characters.

    Back to business, there is news from the "Disney Upfront" conference at a presentation on Tuesday:
    "Disney Channels Worldwide boss Gary Marsh also said the company is “working closely with LucasFilm, Kathleen Kennedy and director Dave Filoni (Star Wars: The Clone Wars) to explore new Star Wars content for our platforms,” to be detailed later this year."
    At the bottom of this link: http://tvline.com/2013/03/13/glee-season-4-spoilers-idina-menzel-returns-shelby/

    So, still vague, but its either that Clone Wars will be airing remaining arcs on Disney, or this is some other 2D thing they whipped up. They need to keep us with a stream of better communication as people are obviously ticked off by the initial announcement.
     
  21. ImNotAStarWarsFanboy

    ImNotAStarWarsFanboy Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Misogyny overload

    Mods pls
     
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  22. darthcaedus1138

    darthcaedus1138 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It's good we hammered that out. I completely agree.
     
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  23. rezpen

    rezpen Jedi Master star 4

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    Interesting, they are keeping Filoni! So maybe the next series won't be so different from Clone Wars as we think and we will see some of these Clone Wars characters in the future if Filoni is still involved.
     
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  24. Watto

    Watto Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    rezpen my take on it was that a Disney channel would air the remaining Clone Wars episodes. I personally don't see how they'll have a new series ready very soon.
     
  25. GGrievous

    GGrievous Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    "Good grief, Rex, doesn't Skywalker tell his underlings to put clothes on? What does he think this is, a cruise liner?" =D=
     
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