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The Phantom Menace Love/Hate Game

Discussion in 'The Phantom Menace' started by Darth_Lacerus, Mar 17, 2005.

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  1. Darth_Lacerus

    Darth_Lacerus Jedi Youngling star 1

    Dec 9, 2004
    Okay, I admit that there are certain aspects of The Phantom Menace that I really love. At the same time there are certain aspects that I really hate. That being's time for the Love/Hate Game.

    LOVE: The duel with Darth Maul
    HATE: The fact that the duel was so short

    LOVE: The speed of Obi and Darth Maul fighting
    HATE: How quickly Maul was killed like Lucas was looking for a way out of that battle.

    LOVE: Natalie Portman as the Queen
    HATE: A 14-year-old queen of a planet

    side note: I think Lucas intended to have Amidala stay the queen therefore you would have PRINCESS Leia, but then he changed his mind.

    LOVE: The scnery of Naboo
    HATE: The CG Battle between the Gugans and the Battle Droids.

    LOVE: The Pod Race
    HATE: The retarded looking CG characters in the other pods.

    LOVE: Seeing Aurra Sing in the cliffs on Tatooine
    HATE: That you never see her again

    LOVE: Seeing a young Anakin
    HATE: The little turd that played Anakin

    LOVE: The fact that the Queen had decoys
    HATE: That the audience knew who the queen was all along

    LOVE: Seeing the Jedi Council for the first time
    HATE: The young looking Yoda

    LOVE: Captain Tarples
    HATE: The Gungan language

    HATE: Jar Jar Binks
    HATE MORE: Jar Jar Binks

    LOVE: A new alien life form
    HATE: A new alien life form used for silly comic relief

    LOVE: Watto
    HATE: Anakin trying to talk Huttese to him.

    LOVE: The fact that a boy has a crush on Amidala
    HATE: The horrible lines he uses talking to her.

    Any other takers?
  2. Techno-Union-Elite

    Techno-Union-Elite Jedi Youngling star 2

    Mar 15, 2005
    LOVE: The visuals and style themes pertaining to each scene.
    HATE: Lack of a better space battle.

    LOVE: Pod Racers!!!
    HATE: Length of the race scene when we knew Anakin would win (filler?).

    HATE: No Mos Eisley cantina cameo. =\

    LOVE: Blue guards on Naboo (the one's that look Roman)
    HATE: No action scenes with them.

    LOVE: The Phantom Menace!
    HATE: The hate for The Phantom Menace as a credible movie!

    I said it in the AOTC version, and I say it again: Hate is such a bad word =\.
  3. Azhrei

    Azhrei Jedi Youngling star 1

    Nov 5, 2004
    Darth_Lacerus - Leia is a Princess because of her family on Alderaan. It has nothing to do with Amidala having once been a Queen. Otherwise Luke would've been a prince, right? And even though Luke was hidden, Leia only had a few fleeting memories of their mother - didn't actually know anything about her.
  4. Lurking_Around

    Lurking_Around Jedi Knight star 6

    May 26, 2002
    LOVE:Neeson's acting, the best in TPM

    HATE:The character of Qui Gon doing all the stuff Kenobi is supposed to do (eg. meeting Anakin)

    LOVE:The Jedis vs Maul duel in general

    HATE:The ending of the duel (I can tolerate the laser doors)

    LOVE:The CGI, which was brilliant

    HATE:Jar Jar and the Gungans
  5. Go-Mer-Tonic

    Go-Mer-Tonic Jedi Youngling star 6

    Aug 22, 1999
    I don't hate anything about this movie.

    Not one hangup what so ever.
  6. female_obi_wan

    female_obi_wan Jedi Youngling star 3

    Aug 1, 2002
    HATE: The little turd that played Anakin

    Dude, you've never even met him.

    (Admittedly neither have I, but even so.)
  7. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC/PT/New Films Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

    Dec 10, 2003
    Who would you have rather had as Anakin?

    Maccully Caulkin, or perhaps we could dress up one of the Olsen Twins as a guy?

    Jake Lloyd did the best he could, and I think he did fine.
  8. Sith-Jedi-Master

    Sith-Jedi-Master Jedi Padawan star 4

    Nov 9, 2004

  9. One-with-the-Force

    One-with-the-Force Jedi Padawan star 4

    Jul 16, 2002
    Love: The Duel.
    Hate: "Yippeeee!"
  10. Sitara

    Sitara Jedi Master star 3

    Oct 8, 2001

    Actually it would have had been far better to have a 14 year old play a ten year old anakin, just like we had a 17-18 year old natalie play a 14 yr old queen.

  11. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC/PT/New Films Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

    Dec 10, 2003
    Good grief she was a young looking 18 year old, though.
  12. solojones

    solojones Force Ghost star 9

    Sep 27, 2000
    LOVE: "When they find us, they will crush us, grind us into tiny pieces, and then BLAST us into oblivion!"
    HATE: "Yippee!"

    LOVE: Qui-Gon catching Jar-Jar's tongue.
    HATE: Jar-Jar's fart/poop gags.

    LOVE: McGregor as Obi-Wan.
    HATE: Obi-Wan's lack of screen time.

    LOVE: Qui-Gon.
    HATE: Qui-Gon's death being revealed in the Soundtrack [face_plain]

    ...Natalie was 16, by the way, during filming.

    [hl=darkgreen]-sj loves kevin spacey[/hl]
  13. Deeysew

    Deeysew Jedi Youngling star 4

    Mar 5, 2005
    LOVE: Star Wars
    Hate: Star Tax Negotiations

    Love: Violence and action
    Hate: Slapstick comedy during the action and violence

    LOVE: Menacing robots
    Hate: That there weren't any in this film

    Love: Darth Maul
    Hate: Darth Maul getting less character development than jar jar. WT*?

    Love: Aggresive Negotiations
    Hate: Diplomatic solutions

    Love: The Force's connection to certain individuals
    Hate: The science lesson for why the force is connected to certain individuals.

    Love: Fun action and witty banter
    Hate: Boring political discussions

    MOD EDIT - Meh, we could do without the comment about the fans.

  14. Darth-Stryphe

    Darth-Stryphe Former Mod and City Rep star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Apr 24, 2001
    ENJOYED: The visuals
    DIDN'T ENJOY: The film's pacing.
  15. jangoisadrunk

    jangoisadrunk Jedi Padawan star 4

    Mar 7, 2005
    Love: seeing Jedi operating under normal day to day circumstances

    Hate: Jedi Masters Yareal Poof and Oppo Rancis. THEY CREEP ME OUT. There is "alien," then there is really "alien." Rancis is a furry snake, and Poof has an extra set of arms and a second chest under his robe. I'm just glad they didn't do anything but sit there. If they had spoke, there might not have been enough voltage in the world to electro-shock me back into coherence. They are all I can look at in those scenes with the Jedi council, and have been since I saw it for the first time. Its totally irrational. I need help.
  16. CloneTrooper_3000

    CloneTrooper_3000 Jedi Youngling star 1

    Mar 19, 2005
    Love: The interaction between Qui Gon and Obi Wan.
    Hate: The interaction between Anakin and Padme. Ugh...

    Love: Gasgano (I don't know why)
    Hate: Ben Quadrinaros

    Love: Sebulba
    Hate: Ric Olie'

    Love: Amidala's Costumes
    Hate: Bits of Anakin's dialog such as "YIPPEE!!" and "I'll try spinning, that's a good trick!". Double ugh.

    I can't think of much else that I hate, so I'll just spread a little more love-

    Love: The Underwater Scenes
    Love: The Scenery of Naboo in general
    Love: Seeing Coruscant for the first time
    LOVE LOVE LOVE: Watto (My favorite character in TPM)
  17. Strilo

    Strilo Manager Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Aug 6, 2001
    LOVE: On topic posts that list loves and hates that are related
    HATE: Posts like Go-Mer-Tonic, female_obi_wan, heels1785 and others who are not posting on topic and in the spirit of the thread.
  18. BauconBatista

    BauconBatista Jedi Padawan star 4

    Jun 24, 2004
    Love: Qui-Gon Jinn
    Hate: Qui-Gon Jinn's death

    Love: Sebulba losing
    Hate: Sebulba
  19. CBright7831

    CBright7831 Jedi Padawan star 4

    Mar 23, 2004
    Love: Viceroy Nute Gunray and Run Haako.
    Hate: The capture of Vinceroy Nute Gunray and Run Haako.
  20. MikeSolo

    MikeSolo Jedi Padawan star 4

    Aug 6, 2002
    Love: Everything dealing the Jedi temple and council.
    Hate: We had to wait till ATOC to see more of the temple.

  21. ExarKunundrum

    ExarKunundrum Jedi Youngling star 2

    Mar 13, 2005
    LOVE: The Sith. Maul was a right psycho and Sidious was my type of villain
    HATE: Midichloreans

    LOVE: The Gungan army
    HATE: A certain Gungan general......

    LOVE: The naboo royal ship design
    HATE: Trade Fed's B-movie battleships

    LOVE: Jedi actors
    HATE: Skywalker actors

    LOVE: ET senators "Vote for Elliot! Vote for Elliot!" :D
    HATE: Nemoidian senators.

    LOVE: Darth Maul
    HATE: Lack of development of Darth Maul

    LOVE: Great scenes that didn't last long (practically anything involving lightsabres or coruscant)
    HATE: Stupid scenes that were too long (practically anything involving Jar Jar)
  22. ExarKunundrum

    ExarKunundrum Jedi Youngling star 2

    Mar 13, 2005
    Actually, I can simplify it further:

    LOVE: The parts of the film where Jar Jar didn't spoil it
    HATE: The parts where he did
  23. Master_Trance

    Master_Trance Jedi Youngling star 2

    Feb 15, 2005
    Love:The pod race
    Hate:jar jar and anikan

    SKIMBLESHANKS Jedi Youngling star 1

    Apr 1, 2005
    LOVE: Darth Maul
    HATE: His death (I mean wtf)

    LOVE: Natalie Portman
    HATE: Queen Amidala

    LOVE: Liam Neeson (good good actor)
    HATE: Qui-Gon Jin (dumb dumb character)

    LOVE: The Space Battles
    HATE: The length

    LOVE: R2D2
    HATE: That he has a small part

    HATE: The Gungan

    LOVE: The way of determining someones power from the force
    HATE: THE FREAKIN WORD Midichloreans.
  25. Chaotic_Serenity

    Chaotic_Serenity Jedi Padawan star 4

    Oct 10, 2004
    LOVE: The Jedi characters.
    HATE: Issues I have with some of their roles.

    LOVE: Child Anakin.
    HATE: The direction behind the acting in the Naboo fighter sequence.

    LOVE: Jar Jar's role.
    HATE: Senseless Jar Jar hate. :(

    LOVE: Ambidala's costuming.
    HATE: Most of Ambidala's hairstyles.

    LOVE: Idea behind the storyline.
    HATE: The fact that certain things that would have been told through visuals kept being only referred to in dialogue.

    LOVE: The idea behind the midichlorians.
    HATE: Alot of the misconception about what purpose it serves that spurred from it.

    And just a short response to the side note:

    side note: I think Lucas intended to have Amidala stay the queen therefore you would have PRINCESS Leia, but then he changed his mind.

    Wasn't her rank from *Bail's* family, though?
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