Rebels The prominent female character

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by Kez-Iban, Jun 8, 2013.

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  1. Skaddix Force Ghost

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    The Statue of Liberty has more personality.
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  2. CT-867-5309 Chosen One

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    They'll just use the real Mon Mothma as a statue.

    But since Caroline Blakiston is getting old, she'll be replaced by an actual statue.
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  3. themetresgained Jedi Grand Master

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    The woman appears for a whole two minutes and now she's a statue? Good grief..

    It's gotta be Mothma for me. As someone else said, we need to see why and how she became such an important figure in the Alliance.
  4. Darth_Pevra Chosen One

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    Have you seen her in the EU?
  5. themetresgained Jedi Grand Master

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    I've read a few post-ROTJ books but I've brainbleached the memories of the Jedi Academy Trilogy so there's not much left there...

    Besides, TV canon is of a higher order, not sure her portrayal in different books by different writers really doesn't say much.

    And my level of interest is also in part caused by her great scenes in RotS which were sadly cut.
  6. Iron_lord Chosen One

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    Haven't seen those- though I read the novelisation, which has them.
  7. Skaddix Force Ghost

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    She is not going to be lead but she is going to be prominent makes no sense for her not to be
  8. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Arguably that could be established just based on the ROTS deleted scenes. But that said, even if she appears in Rebels, she wouldn't need to be a "prominent character" for the audience to understand how and why she got to be important to the Alliance. It would only take one arc.
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  9. Kay Suhyun Jedi Knight

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    I think she was in one of the JK games.
  10. John Cena Jedi Youngling

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    I hope for a new female character though--a feisty badass who is fun and entertaining to watch and a good leader (but don't have the other characters talk about what a good leader she is, let the viewers decide that on our own). [edited]

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  11. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Um, what? I like Grey's but I can't think of any association with Star Wars whatsoever.
  12. Trebor Sabreon Force Ghost

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    I agree, in the sense that the on screen depictions of Organa and Mothma haven't exactly leapt off the screen at me, either, but short of a complete backstory overhaul, Bail, Mon and, to a lesser extent (given his non-appearance in the films) Garm Bel Iblis must play a role of some import, assuming the founding of the actual Alliance is ever even hinted at.

    I know some feel political characters have little-to-no place in a series like this ("the kids won't like it," or some such). As we all know darn well that SW has always aspired to more than just children (yes, even in an animated series), this is, to me, a terribly half-sighted notion. That said, I think they who have suggested these characters would likely fill a smaller role, something akin to the Jedi Council in TCW, have it just about right. Personally, I think that just as watching Palpatine manipulate people and shape events according to his design was great, I could find the spiritual opposite (charismatic leaders inspiring systems and entire peoples to rally around a just cause) just as thrilling. It all hinges on the execution, of course, and gifting these leaders with more engaging personalities would probably be a wise move.

    Now to the topic of the female lead, well, just as with the male leads, I'd like to think that we'll see original characters fill these roles, with the prominent supporting roles going to known entities. I'm ready to be surprised, Lucasfilm!

    Just as a final note, though I don't think there's even a snowball's chance, I'd personally love to see Kea Moll make an appearance of three. As I said in the "Droids and Ewoks" thread, Moll "is a character just primed and ready to be a force in Rebels. She's the perfect age during the 'Dark Times,' and what backstory we have for her, as a member of the fledgling, anti-Imperial, Annoo resistance, already makes her the perfect candidate for a [prominent] role in the series."
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  13. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    I know a lot of adults don't like the political storylines either but I wish the writers would not underestimate what kids can understand. I'm always surprised at the depth of topics that my kids can grasp; sometimes they give me a new perspective on things. Underestimating children really isn't cool.
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  14. themetresgained Jedi Grand Master

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    This is absolutely true. I'm not going to pretend I understood all of the political aspects of TPM when I watched it as a child, but I definitely got the gist (I was 9 or so) and excluding things just because it won't attract children just sells children short.
  15. Togruta Force Ghost

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    Has anyone wondered what this prominent female character will wear yet? :b
  16. Trebor Sabreon Force Ghost

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    This, exactly.

    It's easy to underestimate a child's ability to comprehend, but the truth is that, generally speaking, there's no need to talk down to kids, or use over-expository dialog as a means of ensuring that any intended message is received (and I find that it's often folks who aren't parents themselves who fall into the trap of this line of thinking). Kids just tend to "get it," and if something flies a bit over their heads, you know what they tend to do? They ask questions.

    Consider the features. While it may be true that the films were not composed of layers upon layers of depth and subtlety, they still managed to get their point across to the kids without ever compromising the considerations of the adult audience, and I patently reject the notion that the franchise must now suddenly begin to pander to children to make sure that they understand the message behind Star Wars, of all things.
  17. Trebor Sabreon Force Ghost

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    Hopefully some more clothes, this time! :D
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  18. Darth Valkyrus Force Ghost

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    The worst example of "stupid underestimation of the intelligence of children" that I heard of regarding TCW, was an apparent edict from GL that Aurra Sing should not be shown using the Force on screen - in case children confused her with Ventress.

    The reasoning was that AV was a tall, slender, pale-skinned, bald bad-girl Force user. AS was a tall, slender, pale-skinned, mostly bald (but with long scraped together topknot tail) bad girl. If she was shown also using the Force, obviously the feeble minds of children would be incapable of distinguishing them. :rolleyes: Despite the fact that they don't actually look that alike, and AS has a freakin radio antenna sticking out of her head.

    Yeah. That one is just insulting to children's intelligence.
  19. Praenomen Cognomen Force Ghost

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    I get this concern... but at the same time, don't you think it's a bit silly to fault George Lucas for having kids' perspectives in mind? Even if he's dead wrong... because, ultimately, let's be honest: that concern probably doesn't just come from a place of defending the intelligence of children, so much as it comes from a place of being an adult who wants to see Aurra Sing use the Force...
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  20. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Yeah, I fault him when he assumes that "kids' perspective" means "dumb" or "incapable of grasping deeper concepts."
  21. Togruta Force Ghost

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    Not to mention the no subtitles rule.. And wasn't there something about not showing Shaak Ti earlier because they thought kids would confuse her with Ahsoka? *facepalm*
  22. Darth Valkyrus Force Ghost

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    Hey, dem togrutans all look same.
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  23. Circular Logic SWTV Interview Host

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    Laboda na rowka? Inkabunga!

    Now don't you wish you had some subtitles to go with this post? :p

    Okay, I'll be nice: Is that real? Incredible!
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  24. Darth Valkyrus Force Ghost

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    What is the no subtitles rule? There was plenty of subtitles. Every time someone spoke Huttese there was subtitles.

    Or at least I think there was. Maybe I'm remembering it wrong. I guess the huttese scenes could all have been handled via protocol droids rather than subtitles. I need to recheck..
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  25. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Eechuta.

    Subtitles within (open)
    Oops, can't do it, it's a TOS violation.


    My kids have heard it though.
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