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The Reason why George Lucas needs to make episodes 7-8-9

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by JediofAlcatraz, Jun 16, 2009.

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  1. Game3525

    Game3525 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    This, it is over. There is no more story to tell at this point.
     
  2. goraq

    goraq Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Not about the Big 3 at least.

    By the way i like your new icon.
     
  3. Duragizer

    Duragizer Jedi Master star 4

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    I am 100% against the creation of more SW movies ...

    Unless they are reboots of the prequels, that is. I'm all for those. =P~
     
  4. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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    Except as GL had planned from 80-99:

    Their main theme will be the necessity for moral choices and the wisdom needed to distinguish right from wrong.

    "If the first trilogy is social and political and talks about how society evolves, Star Wars is more about personal growth and self realization, and the third deals with moral and philosophical problems. The sequel is about Jedi Knighthood, justice, confrontation, and passing on what you have learned."
     
  5. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I agree. I want to see a sequel trilogy set some years after ROTJ.
     
  6. Game3525

    Game3525 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The problem with this is the story changed.
     
  7. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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    How? The PT still followed it's outline.
     
  8. Game3525

    Game3525 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The story has now become the tragedy of Darth Vader, didn't Lucas say once Vader is dead, Star Wars is over, or something along that lines?
     
  9. Duragizer

    Duragizer Jedi Master star 4

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    What has changed can be changed again.
     
  10. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon

    Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Knight star 6

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    You mean like Lucas said Star Wars was "from the Adventures of Luke Skywalker?"

    As others have said, if he changed his mind once there's no reason he can't do it again.
     
  11. Game3525

    Game3525 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Fine, point taken, but seriously what story would he tell?
     
  12. DARTH_BELO

    DARTH_BELO Force Ghost star 5

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    Like I keep sayin', instead of going forwards, go backwards, start fresh-new characters, new storyline, same Star Wars! There's some GREAT stuff that would make a pretty solid trilogy that take place 2000 some odd years before the Clone Wars.
     
  13. T-R-

    T-R- Chosen One star 5

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    Their main theme will be the necessity for moral choices and the wisdom needed to distinguish right from wrong.

    If the first trilogy is social and political and talks about how society evolves, Star Wars is more about personal growth and self realization, and the third deals with moral and philosophical problems. The sequel is about Jedi Knighthood, justice, confrontation, and passing on what you have learned.
     
  14. Darth_Nub

    Darth_Nub Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The outline stated is just a handful of broad concepts, not an actual storyline. GL could come up with a new trilogy based on such concepts, regardless of how ROTJ & the PT have affected whatever plot he originally had in mind before abandoning the sequel trilogy - if he ever had one at all.

    What does stand in the way of eps VII-IX happening is that their very necessity has been made somewhat redundant by the way eps I-VI have been structured. The six episode saga follows a story arc which is effectively resolved by ep VI. Anakin has risen, fallen, then been redeemed, Luke has come of age & redeemed his father, the Sith & the Empire have been defeated. What happens next is pretty much "They all lived happily ever after."

    Of course there could be more stories - the EU has continued rather effectively, although one could say that they've been flogging a dead horse for a while. It's worth considering why Tolkien abandoned his sequel to LOTR, The New Shadow:

    "I did begin a story placed about 100 years after the Downfall, but it proved both sinister and depressing. Since we are dealing with Men it is inevitable that we should be concerned with the most regrettable feature of their nature: their quick satiety with good. So that the people of Gondor in times of peace, justice and prosperity, would become discontented and restless ? while the dynasts descended from Aragorn would become just kings and governers ? like Denethor or worse. I found that even so early there was an outcrop of revolutionary plots, about a centre of secret Satanistic religion; while Gondorian boys were playing at being Orcs and going around doing damage. I could have written a 'thriller' about the plot and its discovery and overthrow ? but it would have been just that. Not worth doing."
    ? The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter 256


    Likewise, any story past ROTJ & the fall of the Empire would have dealt with infighting, political squabbling, & threats from lesser villains. Also, just as further tales of Middle Earth wouldn't have been as interesting without the powerful threats of Morgoth & Sauron, any new villains would just pale in comparison to Palpatine & Vader.
     
  15. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That's been my main skepticism of a sequel trilogy.

    Who would the villains of the piece be?
     
  16. Grand_Moff_Jawa

    Grand_Moff_Jawa Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Killer Rabid Ewoks?
     
  17. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Cloned killer rabid ewoks?
     
  18. DarthIktomi

    DarthIktomi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I've actually seen a parody Star Wars novel where the Ewoks take over the galaxy. It's just posted as a few excerpts. I'd post a link, but Luke gets very, ah, "personal" with an issue of Twi'lek Teen. Apparently this is before he meets the Emperor's Hand, pun intended.
     
  19. Hoggsquattle

    Hoggsquattle Jedi Master star 5

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    as long as the Skywalker/Solo family are at its centre.

    but I'd hope they'd move beyond the Sith/Empire stories of the EU. - by that I mean the EU keeps bringing back Empires and Sith making all our heroes sufferings pointless and meaning Anakin did not restore balance.

    what would the "WARS" bit concern though. we'd need a new race of villains that can threatened the Jedi.
     
  20. jedijason330

    jedijason330 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    If you are going to use anything in the EU, I suggest using the New Jedi Order. They definetely get into ethical questions there, and the enemies are not the Empire. I think it could work. Only thing is, I think you would want more than 3 movies for it.
     
  21. Dark_Jedi_Chris

    Dark_Jedi_Chris Jedi Youngling

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    The Saga is perfectly fine how lucas left it. I think that their is no need for a 7-8-9th episode

    And by the way Harrison Ford and The rest of the cast are kind of old
     
  22. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Age doesn't have anything to do with it. Alec Guinness was old too.
     
  23. Darth-Seldon

    Darth-Seldon Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Harrison Ford is too old?
    Of all the original cast, he is in the best shape and remains the most capable to return. Did you not see Indy IV? He did most of the stunts himself.

     
  24. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon

    Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Knight star 6

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    And it's not like Lucas wouldn't be doing everything with CGI anyways.
     
  25. DRush76

    DRush76 Jedi Master star 4

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    Why not do a trilogy about the Skywalker family, beyond Luke's generation or the generation of his son?
     
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