PT The Secondary Villain Appreciation thread

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  1. TheAvengerButton Jedi Grand Master

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    I know that there are a lot of people out there who wanted Maul to return. I also know that there were others that didn't enjoy the contributions that characters like Dooku and Grievous brought to the films. I, however, enjoyed all three villains and their roles in the saga. Maul was essentially a brute, an assassin used to further the initial goals of Palpatine, and put the fear back into the complacent Jedi Order that the Sith had returned.

    Count Dooku, however, was a charming aristocrat and politcal manipulator, exactly the kind of man that Palpatine needed to create conflict. On the outside he is an idealist against the ideals of the Republic. On the inside, he is a cold, manipulative Sith Lord plotting against the Republic and his own master.

    And Grievous? How awesome is Grievous? A former warrior turned into a fighting machine, most likely serving the purpose of being anti-Jedi propoganda and military leader. He also serves to be a Vader prototype. I don't care what anyone says, Grievous is quite the badass. He is one of my favorite things about the Prequel movies.

    Lets show our love for these guys, eh?
  2. Lars_Muul Chosen One

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    I'm with you all the way, TAB! These guys are greatly entertaining characters in their own right.
    What's truly fascinating about them is that even though it wasn't planned that way, they also serve as foreshadowers of different aspects of Darth Vader: Maul, the obedient apprentice - Dooku, the charismatic second-in-command with an agenda of his own - and Grievous, the imposing and iconic cyborg.
    I think destiny had a hand in it ;)





    Cyborgs - they're imposing
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  3. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Chosen One

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    These villains are cool, but I'm hoping we get to see more of them in action before the show gets cancelled. I would especially like to see more of their skills in strategy and battle tactics so we're reminded why these guys were chosen by Darth Sidious.
  4. Lando Carmello Jedi Youngling

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    I am really sad about what happened to Greivious.
  5. Yunners Force Ghost

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    Of the new characters introduced to the Star Wars universe via the PT, Dooku defiantly stands out at my favorite. He had presence, which Maul sorely lacked. I would have liked him to have had more screen time in ROTS because In my eyes he's the Vader of the PT.
  6. Lars_Muul Chosen One

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    I think many fans agree with you there, Yunners. I really thought that Dooku would be killed by Anakin late in the film, in a scene similar to the Emperor scenes in ROTJ. As it turned out, he was killed by Anakin in a scene of that ilk, but I was truly shocked to see it happen so early on. I remember that many of my pals on the non-spoiler forum predicted that, but I just thought they were nuts :p

    I think it's cool, though, that none of these characters got as much screen time as Vader. He's a major player in the Saga, whereas they are not. They're his predecessors and he was meant to overshadow them all.
    At the same time, I also think it's really cool that TCW pushes them to the forefront and gives them a chance to spread their wings. You gotta love that show.





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  7. Alexrd Force Ghost

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    To me, Dooku and Maul are not secondary villains.

    All three have their reason to exist. Maul is a cunning Sith warrior, Tyranus is a fallen Jedi turned Sith and Grievous is a cyborg. In the end, Vader shares characteristics with all of them, as they were partially meant to be "clues" to the fall of Anakin.
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  8. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    Grievous was not a coward as the bumbass Mace Windu said. He implemented the Art Of War to a point.
  9. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Chosen One

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    I'm watching the movie "Soldier" with Kurt Russell and I can't help think of the similarities between the film and how Maul probably ended up on Lotho Minor.
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  10. QuangoFett Force Ghost

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    Tarkin needs more appreciation, I must say. A good secondary villain in his own right.

    Who is CC-01/425, anyway?
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  12. TheAvengerButton Jedi Grand Master

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    Admittedly, I thought of doing a similar topic in the classic trilogy forum, then I slapped myself and thought I could've just done an entire Saga version. But Tarkin was the main villain of ANH. Vader would be the secondary. ;)

    Consider the TVTropes ranking.

    Tarkin would be the Big Bad, with Vader is his Dragon. Then, Vader becomes Palpatine's Dragon in ESB.

    If I were to make a CT list, the secondary villains would be Vader, Boba, and Jabba.

    Though, I guess Tarkin could be a secondary villain if Vader is a main character...So mayhaps Tarkin does have a place in the list after all.
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  13. Zeta1127 Force Ghost

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    CC-01/425 was the clone advisor for Delta Squad in Republic Commando.
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