The Star Wars Series

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  1. PADAWAN_EVASTAR Jedi Knight

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    Plisiazi to etos pou tha kani tin emfanisi tis i sira star wars, alla...den echo proetimasti sosta akoma.:p
    Katarchin pistevete oti otan vgi stin Ameriki, meta apo poso kairo ipologizete na boroume kai stin Ellada na ti doume -an ti doume? Kai pio kanali skefteste oti tha pari ta dikaiomata?
    Echi gini gnosto pii ithopii tha paizoun?
  2. Urkanoid Force Ghost

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    Egw to mono to opoio mporw na pw einai oti amfibalw para polu ean tha asxolithei kaneis me to SW sta dika mas kanalia... H pio asfalis odos mou fainetai to amazon kai oi palies kales paraggelies... Oso gia tous ithopoious den exw idea kai thewrw oti gia akoma mia fora o theios tha epileksei na kinithei upoula, proslambanwntas pagkosmiws agnwstous kai apeirous upokritas... :p
  3. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    Den paizoun plirofories akoma. An kai mantevo pos otan perasei mia season stin Ameriki tha arxisei na erxetai k apo mas. Gia kana Star to kovo na pairnei ta dikaiomata.
  4. PADAWAN_EVASTAR Jedi Knight

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    Kala, gnorizo tin pagomara pou echi to elliniko kino gia to sw, alla les, Urka, na min to provali kanena elliniko kanali? Ego pali klino perissotero s'afto pou ipe o gianakin, dld na to pari kana star, stin kaliteri periptosi toulachiston, giati bori na to pari kai kana sindromitiko kanali...Idomen...
    Gia tous ithopious fantazomai ki ego to idio, Urka, alla pistevo oti tha vali kai kana gnosto onoma gia "krachti" (vl. Guinness & McGregor gia tis 2 trilogies antisticha).
    An den kano lathos, tha diadramatizetai anamesa sto III kai sto IV, etsi? Opote, pia prosopa pistevete na dixi? Dld ektos Vader & Sidious kai olous tous enapominantes tou Rots. Tha xekinisi fantazomai me to pos megalonoun o Luke ki i Leia mechri to simio tou IV (an kai kati tetio de tha echi kai TO endiaferon:p ), kathos kai to pos exelisete i Aftokratoria. Epidi den echo polidiavasi EU, den xero pos peripou tha ine to story. Fantazome oti tha epikentronetai se allous iroes oson afora tin kali plevra kai isos to pos genithike i Symmachia klp. Echete kamia idea?

  5. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    Vasika amfivallo an tha deiksei ta didima. Ante tin Leia, logo ton politikon tis sindeseon. O Luke einai farmboy se enan makrino planiti, opote den to kovo.
    Logika o Vader tha kanei emfaniseis (sixnes, elpizo), kathos den mas polinoiazei o ithopoios kai sigoura foni mporoun na vroun. O Sidious, e, tou pousti, mia 2 emfaniseis ana sezon tha tis kanei o McDiarmid. Afto pou perimeno k psilomantevo genika einai na deixnei ta politika-epanastatika gegonota metaksi Ep3 kai 4, kai kinigi ton epizonton Jedi (opos i seira Highlander eixe tis monomaxies, etsi k edo me fotospatha).
  6. PADAWAN_EVASTAR Jedi Knight

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    Psiloepeses mesa, gianakin, giati ap'oso ida sti sxetiki selida tis wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars_live-action_TV_series#Cast tha dixi ligi Leia gia afto akrivos to logo pou aneferes ki esi (politikes sindesis). Malista anaferete charaktiristika: A.C. Crispin has stated that she proposed a book series dealing with Princess Leia Organa between Episode III and IV, but that "Lucasfilm didn't approve the idea of a Leia backstory because they want to keep that era of the SW continuity untouched for the television series they're considering."
    Poli pithano omos na dixi kai Luke, giati tha dixi kai Obi-one, opote de ginetai na mi fani ki aftos.
    Mesa epeses kai gia ton Sidious, pou ap'oti fenete tha ton kani o McDiarmid (an kai milame gia anepisimes plirofories). Gia tous allous dio pou anaferi oti bori na kanoun kapies emfanisis (Christensen & McGregor)echo megales amfivolies, alla pote de xeris me ton thio ti psinete...
    Pantos, parolo pou den tha echoume tous agapimenous mas "kalous" iroes (Luke, Solo, Leia & Anakin, Padme, Obi-Wan) os protagonistes, to story akougetai poli endiaferon kai sigoura tha echi allous, episis endiaferontes, protagonistes\iroes. Fantazome oti kapios epizisantas Jedi tha echi kapio protagonistiko rolo kai apo tous kakous vlepo na perni ta pano tou o Boba Fett, ap'oti ida kai sto wiki (megali agapi re paidi mou tou echi aftounou to charaktira o thios kai den katalaveno giati...[face_thinking] ).
  7. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    Afou gamaei o Fett.
    Tora, gia Obi Wan pou les oti tha deiksei, den mporo na do me poio skeptiko. Einai erimitits, krivetai, dialogizetai, o Ewan POLI amfivallo an tha paiksei ksana se SW, o Hayden mono se flashback i se kana plano Vader xoris kranos (kai an). Opote gia Luke sou leo, den to polikovo. Oxi oti an ton deiksoun de tha xaro, apla leo oti den mou kollaei o Luke se afto pou pa na kanoun.
    Tora, o Fett stin OT eixe sto ena mpratso tou kotsidakia apo Padawans, opote perimeno na voithisei stin sfagi. Alla den perimeno kathe Jedi kathe evdomada na skotonetai, giati i seira tha einai poli skoteini gia tin TV. PErimeno kapoious statherous protagonistes apo tous opoious kapoioi tha skotothoun mexri to telos, kapoioi tha epizisoun (kanas Jedi na ti glitosei etsi gia ksekarfoma). Pantos an do kana epeisodio me Vader k Fett mazi mesa...gamo!
  8. PADAWAN_EVASTAR Jedi Knight

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    Katalaveno to skeptiko sou oson afora ton Luke kai ontos de kollai poli s'afto to kommati tis saga, alla skeftome oti -an ton dixi- isos ton dixi se poli mikres kai liges skines (san skines kapias existorisis tou Obi-Wan), dichnontas mono kati gia ti zoi peripou pou ekane pro Obi-Wan, dld to pos ginetai kalos pilotos kai kapia alla gia ti diamorfosi tis prosopikotitas tou. Exallou min xechnas oti o Obi lei oti ton parakolouthi apo vrefos kai nomizo oti o thios de tha afisi anekmetallefti KAI afti tou ti niksi...opote, an simfona me tis fimes kani emfanisis o Obi sti sira, tha prepi na doume kai ligo Luke.

    Sovara? Echi kotsidakia apo Padawans?? Den ta icha prosexi katholou, alla den to echo xanakousi kiolas! Polemios ton Jedi dld o Bucket-head, eh? Ekdikisi gia to thanato tou patera tou...
    Simfono. Kapos etsi to fantazomai ki ego to skiniko. Gia tous Jedi omos oli den prepi na echoun skotothi mechri to IV (ennoite ektos Obi & Yoda)["Luke, when gone am I... the last of the Jedi will you be"]??
  9. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    1on, ego leo oti den vlepo ton Obi na emfanizetai. An emfanistei, profanos tha deiksei k ligo Luke. Alla ksanaleo oti den mou kollaei kapou stin istoria pou thelei na pei o Lucas, ante kana eortastiko epeisodio i whatever. Episis, to oti anefere oti tha parakolouthei ton Luke den einai mia niksi stin opoia mporeis na stirixteis gia na vgaleis iliko. Oraia ton prosexe min pathei tipota. Apo kei k pera? Den vgazeis epeisodia k epeisodia me peripeteies tou pappou k tou vlammenou stin erimo.
    2on, O Fett eide ton patera tou na skotonetai pao Jedi. Logiki ekseliksi einai na voithisei.
    3on, Yoda: "Strong am I with the Force... but not that strong". Idi sta vivlia/comics exoun sothei merikoi (mia xoufta) Jedi apo ta 18 afta xronia. Logiko, den einai dinato na skotothoun OLOI OLOI. Opote, an zisei enas Jedi, den tha einai katholou travigmeno. Akoma kalitera, tha mporouse na xrisimopoiisei kapoious apo tous idi iparxontes Jedi ton vivlion/comics (den kratao k tin anasa mou gi'afto, alla leme mpas kai), gia na min iparksoun k sigkrouseis me ta alla pou exoun vgei.
  10. Starkeiller Force Ghost

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    Apo Wookiee einai. Alla afta ta pragmata allazoun.

    Kai oso gia to pws fandazomai egw to skiniko, neous charactires tha echei, ypopsiazomai se styl mia parea s' ena strapatsarismeno astroskafos me kewl onoma kafrila good ole days space western, kati san afto pou eidame sto KotOR, me emfaniseis symandikwn politika charactirwn opws Sidious, Vader, Organa ktl, ochi Luke kai tetoia. Alla re paidia, o McDiarmid se synendefksi echei pei oti ama tou to zitisoun kanei ton Aftokratora gia tin TV me ta bounia. Meta pws na paei strava i seira? ;) Twra ta rumors gia Quinlan Vos pou eida sti Wikipedia moufé mou kanoun, alla to leei kiolas, o Theios echei prospathisei na chwsei to charaktira sto III kai afou to adistakto psalidi afise mono mia anafora, kovondas to thanato tou, meta ousiastika o George kathodigise ton Ostrander pou dimiourgise to charaktira na kanei tin teleia pasa gia skiniko skliro axyristo adraki prwin Jedi ta vazei me tin Aftokratoria monos tou kai peftoun polla kefalia stormtrooper. Sas lew, mou echei kollisei oti tha einai edelws space western skiniko.
  11. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    Nai, sostos itan Wookiee, dioti tote o Theios amfivallo an eixe tosi pliroforia sta xeria tou gia Padawans, alla ops eipes, allakse kai tora to exoun os Padawan braids. Gi' afto to eipa, dioti eixa dei mia foto pou eksigouse klasika kathe kommati tis stolis tou kai ta parousiaze os Padawan braids. Epi OT omos, ontos ligo diskolo.

    Tora, sxetika me afta pou les gia ti seira, nai, k go kapos etsi to fantazomai, diladi enas xaraktiras san ton Han Solo kovo to peos sou (!!) oti tha iparxei (eidika afou eleipse se pollous apo tin PT), kai gia na po tin alitheia tha exei k thesi ekei mesa. O Quin Vos mporei xalara na xoresei kai afou les oti o Theios prospathise na ton valei, isos na min einai toso moufa oi fimes (i na min apodeixtoun moufa). Apla kesro oti mporoun na mpoun xaraktires apo to EU mesa, kath' oti i Seira tha exei tin efkairia na einai i canon gefira metaksi tainion kai EU (kai etsi na strepsei kana 2 purist kefalakia- akous Urkanoid?).
    Telos, afou o McDiarmid exei dilosei enthousiasmenos, e, ntaksei. Amfivallo an o Theios den ton xrisimopoiisei. Aftos k o Vader tha einai oi treles attraction tis seiras, sta epeisodia pou tha emfanizontai tha psilospane oi tileoraseis stin Ameriki (edo akoma sapioi einai ,opote... Internet for the win).
    Pantos prepei na tin analavoun poli MALAKES anthropoi gia na min petixei i seira kai, eno ksero ti elega mexri k 1.5 xrono prin, exontas parakolouthisei tin tropi pou exei parei i TV ta teleftaia xronia, den amfivallo oti exei prooptikes gia na vgei poli kali.
  12. PADAWAN_EVASTAR Jedi Knight

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    Pappou ennois ton Obi? Vlammeno ton Luke?[face_thinking]Proton den ipa ego na dixi ti erimitiki zoi tou Obi, alla ligi apo ti zoi tou Luke pro Obi. Den ine entelos asxeto. Kollai.
    Dld mou les oti ti chroniki periodo tou ESB i genika tis OT, iparchoun epizisantes Jedi? Den ine o Luke "the last of the Jedi"?
    Mia chara-charoula dld!:D Telika re paidia pote tha vgi? 2007 i 8?



  13. Urkanoid Force Ghost

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    Gia na eimai eilikrinis den exw skeftei kai toso polu tin upothesi tou series alla tha prepei na sumfwnisw mazi sou Sifi... Exontas up opsin mou ta sfixta, kleistofobika plana mesa sto Falcon, ap' opou xekina stin ousia kai olo to Saga, mporw na katanoisw giati mia space-western-virtually-taking-place-inside-a-spaceship-hull antimetwpisi einai pithano na akolouthithei kai na einai epituxis. Mporeis na kaneis ena swro anafores stin OT (kuriws aisthitikes kai skinothetikes) kai ara na ikanopoiiseis OLOYS autous pou ithelan pio polu OT stin PT, mporeis na anaptuxeis wraiotata tous xaraktires sou kai episis exontas tous topothetimenous se ena skafos, sou parexetai aneta i dunatotita na min exeis "dusarestes" sunantiseis me idi egkathidrimenous xaraktires tou Saga. Oi opoies sunantiseis me politika i alla simainonta proswpa (guest appearances dld...;) ) den tha "epiballontai" sti seira, opws tha ginotan ean to skiniko itan enas apo tous gnwstous mas planites. Ola tha'nai kapws free kai xalara, no strings attached... Ola auta bebaia einai wild speculations alla tha doume...
    Apo tin alli tha dothei kai i eukairia stous diaforous EU fans *clears throat* na doun tous agapimenous tous lame xaraktires...:p Ante, na xareite kai seis ligo... [face_laugh]
    Pera ap' tin plaka, ean i seira exei scope kai i paragwgi exei cojones (tupou Lost, 24, My name is Earl etc) i seira tha mamaei. Einai gegonos oti tha prepei na prospathisoun para polu gia na tin kanoun teleiws moufa...
  14. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    Evastar, nai, pappou ton Ben k vlammeno ton Luke. Alla to leo xaideftika. Gia mena de tha kollaei. Tha einai 9, 13, 15? Opoia ilikia k na pareis oi peripeteies pou mporei na exei stin Tatooine mou fainontai ilithies k gia mikra paidakia. Alla mporei k na ekplago (makari).

    Nai, sto ESB iparxoun k alloi Jedi, alla opos eipothike k sto EU, o Luke den einai "the last of the Jedi", alla "the first of many". No problemo ekei, den iparxei plot hole (alloste k osoi epezisan, piran ta @@ tou Vader, opote den pianontai. O Luke pianetai).

    Urkanoid, ama vgainoun seires san to Smallville, to Supernatural, to Heroes (dioti oi perissoteres pou aneferes den exoun k polla effe) ktl, mporei na vgei k seira apo ton Theio me kala production values. Den anisixo. Kalo story k premise na exoun. Oi anafores stin OT pote den einai kakes, k an estrones ton kolarako sou (:p) na diavasei kana comic/vivlio sta sovara, tha evlepes oti mporoun na kanoun kala pragmata.
  15. PADAWAN_EVASTAR Jedi Knight

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    Poli kalos o syllogismos sou, Urka, gia tin "space-western-virtually-taking-place-inside-a-spaceship-hull antimetwpisi". Prokite gia ontos poli asfali odo pou de tha prokalesi antidrasis kai oxinsis ton antipalon bushers-gushers-purists-kai-pai-legontas. Kai pali milame gia ipothesis vevaia, alla etsi ki allios mono afto boroume na kanoume stin parousa fasi.
    Epidi anaferthike omos i parousia iroa typou Solo, pion echete kata nou -s'esas tous EU geeks milao?
    OK, katalava kai to dechome, alla pesto kai s'enan purist afto, na doume an tha to dechti.
    Kai pos o 9chronos Anakin tou EP.I sou arese (ipotheto), eno to vlammeno, o Luke, den iparchi periptosi na prokalesi katholou to endiaferon? Epidi den echoun ton idio arithmo midi-chlorians?o_O


  16. Urkanoid Force Ghost

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    She's got a point buddy...;) Olokliri tainia mas kanane me to muxiariko...
  17. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    No point at all.
    Osi apo ti zoi tou Anakin edeikse stin Tatooine, xestike i Fatme, oson afora emena. Ekane mia grigori perilipsi tis zois tou mesa se 20 lepta, evale action skini me ta Podraces k tin ekanan gia Coruscant (opou arxise to zoumi). Thelete na mou peite oti se mia tileoptiki seira tha spatalisei 15 apo ta 40 lepta tou epeisodiou gia na deiksei action skini me podrace i ton Luke na mathainei na pilotarei? Giati mono afto tha mou kratage to endiaferon. TO POLI POLI POLI na deiksei mia k MONO mia sinantisi Luke k Kenobi, na paroume kana-2 kalous dialogous. Allios, miksiarikes periepteies... mpaaaaa.
    Episis, gia na apantiso, oxi o Anakin den mou arese me tin ennoia oti miso panta ta mikra paidia se action movies. Ta gamane ola. Apla edo den gkrianiazo giati oles oi pozeries pou ekane dikaiologountai apo tin Dinami, opote kano toumpeki (allo paidaki pou den me xalase einai sto Superman Returns, pou itan k isixo k ferotan sa na itan ontos 5 xronon k oxi san 20, opos kanoun sinithos. Paidia pou me xalasane, vlepe Moumia Returns kai Zorro no2. Tha katalavete ti eidous paidia miso stis tainies, loipon).
    Opote, I stand by my point, mexri apodeikseos tou enantiou, de me noiazei o Luke gia ti Seira.
  18. PADAWAN_EVASTAR Jedi Knight

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    Bori, pou xeris? Afou ascholiotan me afta, diskolo ine na dixi kati tetio?
    Nai, kane toubeki giati..."The Force runs strong in my family" ki o Luke tha borouse na kani diafora logo Dinamis. Anyway re paidia, den kaigomai na ton do kai oute tha me niaxi. Aplos stirizomeni sto wiki, pistevo oti bori kai na fanoun afti oi 2, opote as min imaste oute apoliti oute arnitiki.

    I megali "gafa" omos ine pou skotose tin Aayla sto ROTS, giati tis axize enas pio protagonistikos rolos kai tha kollage tora sti sira (mazi kai me ton Quinlan). A re thie...
  19. gianakin Jedi Knight

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    Mpa, de ftanei pou fanike k stin tainia, i mple skilitsa...
  20. PADAWAN_EVASTAR Jedi Knight

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    Aah, ochi, ochi, ochi, agapite mou gianakin, o skopos pou evales den tha petichi....OCHI....[face_shame_on_you]
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