ST The Technical Side of TFA

The visuals were mediocre at best. Amateur use of color and that dang filter, whatever it is, that seems to be on every single film these days, gave everything an artificial look. The editing hardly gave shots a chance to develop, as well.

Not completely on topic but this video breaks down the ot/pt pretty well.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...wP1Hz7kqoiyODJRfw&sig2=QTSt5Ze2UtV2Oy9q7rAMUg

 

As did I, or at least with the use of a pneumatic pump or something.

 

thanks for trolling the thread with mindless bashing combined with irrelevant nonsense

 

One of JJ Abrams most endearing traits as a director is letting the scene play instead of inserting multiple cuts so I don't think he has any idea what he's talking about.

 

I just want to say, right off the bat, that I think the Maul/Ben/Qui-gon duel is one of the better duels...

...that said, this is pretty funny!

 

It isn't nonsense. All these modern films lack any real knowledge of color theory, instead they opt for a Photoshop like effect over the entire image in an attempt to make it a consistent image.

The editing has no structure or rhythm, which is why the pacing has issues. This plays a hand as to why the Han and Kylo scene holds very little weight. At some point things needed to slow down in order to give the viewer a sense of importance relating to these two characters.

***it is almost as if the film was altered to make it appear like it came from a different era--late 70s/early 80s.

 

LOL, that scene was fantastic and the cinematography was wonderful.

 

This was JJ's least "filtered" film to date. Are you sure you weren't watching a different film?

Also, how about this filter?



Or this:



You can't seriously argue that TFA looks artificial, while propping up the PT as the height of the natural. TFA was far, far more naturalistically lit than AOTC and ROTS (I think TPM was generally good in that regard).

 

sorry dude, this is nonsense, watch the film again.

 

The prequels trilogy didn't have much over the image. I don't think you understand. There's a color grading process and modern cinema in general alters sooooo much in post. I'm referring to the crushed blacks and just the after effect laid over the image in The Force Awakens.

Pixar is 100% digital, but it is what it is. The lighting is what's rendered over the years. There isn't much in the way of completely overlaying the image with some kind of filter. I cannot possibly be the only one that sees this. Marvel, DC, Star Trek....they've all got it.

 

Yep, it's just you

 

Can we get back to discussing TFA again?

 

I would not be surprised if I was in the minority considering what types of films sell these days, but fact of the matter is it exists.

Leaves a bad taste in my mouth when filmmakers and producers claim one thing and the reality is so much different.



http://www.slashfilm.com/force-awakens-visual-effects/

 

I know precisely what you are talking about, and am arguing that TFA is simply not as guilty of it as you claim (except for in places that are harshly lit in-universe, like the stormtrooper transport and some hallways in the SD). There were far more blanket filters in the PT. Including the crushed blacks you talk about. AOTC and ROTS absolutely destroyed shadows and blacks with either its airbrush filters, over-done flood lights, or over-done digital lights.





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In many cases, particularly on Jakku, Kanata's and Starkiller, one got the sense that JJ used no filters at all, and a pretty minimal color grade.

In short, TFA looked nothing like JJ's Star Trek films.

 

(That said, I loved the lens flares. )

 

Something that occurred to me after a second viewing is that Rey's journey gets a very sensory/atmospheric treatment, and I think it's part of what gives the film so much repeat value.

• Her introductory sequence
• Seeing "so much green" for the first time
• The beautifully eerie build-up to the Force vision (this in particular stood out the second time)
• The moments when she's alone in the woods right before Kylo appears
• Tapping into the Force during the duel
• The ending scene

And in all of that she has two lines.

Speaking of the vision, I also caught the cleverly-edited line from Alec Guinness, thanks to rewatching ANH.

 

Another BTS video. There was A LOT of CGI used here, but it looks stunningly great.

 

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Another BTS video. There was A LOT of CGI used here, but it looks stunningly great.[/quote]

Love this stuff, thanks! So Maz is as tall as Lupita kneeling awesome they just captured her on set.

 

Wow, that vid gives a hint at the phenomenal amount of work that has gone into the movie. I've taken a lot of it for granted.

 

I don't know what "natural" is.

JJ doesn't go for natural as you can see in the difference between the shots of the actual live filming and the finished product.

So what?

Directors do what they want for the movie.

TFA looked far more like the PT than the OT which is natural enough as they are all digital movies.

 

No, the "lighting" in most of TFA (both outdoor and indoor) looks far more like the OT than the PT, IMO.

From an artistic perspective, TFA simply has a more naturalistic look than the PT. Except for TPM, which I think was well lit.

The question is simple: Does it look very digital? Both in terms of lighting and rendering? If so, it's less natural than it could be. Due to a combination of a different cinematographic style, and an emphasis on natural and in-camera light, that's what we got.

 

The escape from Jakku, in terms of lighting, is maybe my favourite SW sequence, perhaps only matched by the asteroid chase in ESB. The use of natural lighting with Daisy in the cockpit really blends everything together.

 

I agree on it matching the asteroid field sequence.