The Third Installment of the 2005 Jedi Draft!!!!

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  1. Zonama_Mekot Jedi Master

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    Jan 25, 2004
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    Luke, Yoda and Obi could. :p

    Pipe down.

    Yay Im unbanned.

    WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM ZONAMA?!?!?!!?!?!

    *Sprints full-tilt at Zonama*


    Yeah seriously what is that guys problem?
  2. Mr_Sith Jedi Grand Master

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    Jun 19, 2003
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  3. DarthKakarot Jedi Youngling

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    Mar 9, 2005
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    I hate to say it, but, Sithy, you own Madine.
  4. Mr_Sith Jedi Grand Master

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    Jun 19, 2003
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    I agree Kakkay, I agree.
  5. bburditt Jedi Youngling

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    Mar 8, 2004
    star 5
    Where the hell are my judges?
  6. TheForgottenJedi Jedi Master

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    Apr 10, 2004
    star 4
    Proably getting some last minute "encouragement" from Madine.

    :p
  7. Corran-OBrien Jedi Knight

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    Feb 13, 2005
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    Maybe I shouldn't say this out loud, but I can't stop myself: Any and all respect I once had for Madine has now evaporated. Where the **** do you get off telling a judge to change their vote? After you had the audacity to do it to me in the past, I thought you would have had it out of your system. But I guess not. Egotistical crap like that should get you tossed from the game, and i'm surprised burd is being polite enough to let you finish competing. So instead of screaming at burd and demanding he change his vote, just because you don't agree, you should be down on your knees and kissing his feet, thanking him for the oppurtunity to get your rear-end handed to you by Mr_Sith.

    ~Corran
  8. EMPEROR_WINDU Force Ghost

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    Nov 23, 2002
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    I know this is going to sound harsh, but I want the judges to pull on their panties and take a little criticism... :p



    First off, Onimi over Plo Koon is an absolute disgrace...Absolute disgrace to the Star Wars universe, if there is such a thing... Everyone acts like Onimi had some amazing fighting career before he travelled into the GFFA... He controlled a few minds, which is no better than mind tricking a few stormtroopers...


    Skill? Darth frickin Maul, the crowned king of skilled combat calls Plo Koon amongst the greatest Jedi warriors...Coming from someone who has studied the Jedi all his life, this means a lot


    Onimi can shoot poison from his fangs, if he gets close... Big frickin deal


    Power is up in the air, both have lightning but Koon has the advantage due to his lineage


    Onimi has controlled a few minds, suprised a few people, and then lost.... Give me a break



    And Windu vs Vader is even more laughable... We have Vader's master getting the sith beat out of him by Mace Windu... and the judges go and vote Darth Vader (someone who is scared of the man Mace beat)


    Seriously, seriously bad judging... But I'm sure you can take the criticsm


    On the flip side, I read Burd's team decision and I agree...Sith is just too good down the line, especially with the last two for Madine


    But in individuals so far.... not so good in my opinion
  9. Corran-OBrien Jedi Knight

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    Personally, I think Onimi vs. Plo could go either way, and I can see reasons each one could win. But again, to tell, nay, demand a judge to change their vote is just plain asinine.

    Oh, and Vader would walk all over Mace. It wouldn't even be close.

    EDIT: As for your argument that Mace beat Vader's Master, i'll just say this:

    ROTS Sidious <<<<<<< Sidious in his prime.

    Plus, i'm one of those people who thinks that Mace didn't beat Sidious.


    ~Corran
  10. EMPEROR_WINDU Force Ghost

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    Nov 23, 2002
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    Well thats your opinion Corran, I didn't say it was a good idea for Madine to demand a judge change his ruling.


    Vader is 80 percent of what Sidious is in the OT... Mace beats Sidious because of his age Mr-Sith says... Well Palpy is 90 in ROTJ, and Vader is 45 living in a suppossedly cyborg superfortress


    If you want to argue ROTS Vader, pre-suit over Mace....it's debatable but Mace would still squeek it out


    Arguing that a cyborg that has lost a majority of his power would beat a Jedi Master who already beat on the cyborg's master when he was actually more youthful is just a bad argument


    EDIT: Palpy's prime is irrelevant since Vader is not being subjugated by Palpy at his prime... No reason to believe that older ROTJ Palps is better than youthful ROTS Palps



    In the script Mace beats Sidious. End.of.story.


    But believe what you want
  11. Corran-OBrien Jedi Knight

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    I still don't see why people think that Vader in the suit is crap. It's just freakin' wrong. If Vader was weak, do you honestly think that Sidious would kept him as his #1 man? Of course not. It wasn't until Luke came along that Sidious saw his potential as being stronger than Vader, which he did in fact become.

    The only thing that Mace might have Vader is skill with the saber, and that's not anything close. Meanwhile, Vader completely and utterly destroys Mace in terms of power and experience. It's even close. As far as power goes, he's a Skywalker! What has Mace ever shown to make me even think that he can come close to touching the power of a Skywalker? As far as experience, you've got Obi-Wan, Dark Woman, Luke twice, plus you could techincally count the fights with Dooku and Asajj. Add in all that Vader did during the purge, and that wipes Mace off the face of the map.

    Hopefully one of these days Mace will take the spot he deserves: Second-Round.


    ~Corran
  12. EMPEROR_WINDU Force Ghost

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    Read the last sentence...I'm still laughing [face_laugh]



    I'll go back and read the rest now
  13. bburditt Jedi Youngling

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    Windu, I voted Onimi over Koon because there is evidence of Onimi actually doing something impressive, you still did not tell me... well... anything that Koon has done.

    I voted Vader over Mace for what Corran said. I believe that Vader was scared of Sidious because of his power, not because of his skill. Mace beat Sidious in skill, not in power, not by a long-shot in power. If Sidious had really tried with the power thing, the outcome would have been no different, Mace out the window.
  14. TheForgottenJedi Jedi Master

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    Apr 10, 2004
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    Mace as a second rounder.................. o_O I havn't really had an arguement with anything you have said so far Corran but this one is an eye opener.
  15. EMPEROR_WINDU Force Ghost

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    Nov 23, 2002
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    Ummmm, not trying with the power thing?


    Sidious tried to fry Mace for a good long while, Burd... And it's easy to see that Sidious was worried after a much, much shorter dosage of lightning towards Yoda



    He wasn't faking, he was near the end of his power both times
  16. Corran-OBrien Jedi Knight

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    Eight Players that should be picked above Mace:

    1. Luke - Better individually, better as a leader
    2. Yoda - Better individually, better as a leader
    3. Sidious - Better individually, better as a leader
    4. Vader - Better individually, equal as a leader
    5. Revan - Better individually, better as a leader
    6. Kun - Better individually, slightly worse as a leader
    7. Ulic - Better indivudally, equal as a leader
    8. Obi-Wan - Equal (if not better) individually, better as a leader

    Yeah, i'm clearly out of my mind... [face_plain]


    ~Corran
  17. bburditt Jedi Youngling

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    Mar 8, 2004
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    I was reading my first draft, Second of 2004, and it's amazing how much more friendly the drafts were back then.

    When someone made a real bad pick, i.e. Mara Jade in the first round, everyone said, well, maybe you can get a better pick in the second round.

    Now they would just get teased and tauned and maybe even banned by Strilo.
  18. bburditt Jedi Youngling

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    Mar 8, 2004
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    Well, here are the funny quotes from this installment of the draft. It kind of quited down near the end of the draft, but these are still funny nonetheless. Enjoy.





    12. Mace - corran

    they never took their robes off!!! had they, then perhaps they would've had much less restriction in physical movement ? axle

    by the way, nice song ken, it got me outta my chair. ? axle

    Did you spill beer all over yourself Axle? ? bburditt

    I skimmed your mom last night...it's ok. ? Horax

    Perhaps the the first reasonable comeback so far, possibly refering to SoD as an adolescent incapable of reasonanble thought. ? Zonama

    YOUNGLINGED. ? Suzuki

    Hey, this game looks like fun - Can I play?

    -Stay Off My Jock!- - Corran?

    Maybe you don't understand - the draft is not a one hour thing. ? Suzuki

    I will play then.When does it start?I can only be on for a few more half an hour. ? JimFox

    I'll be on for a few more 10 minutes and then I have to poor beere all hover my faze. ? bburditt

    I do not drink beer!Stop it ? JimFox

    HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE HERE. BECAUSE THE DRAFT TAKES PLACE OVER WEEKS. ABSCENCES FOR HOURS ARE NO BIGGIE. HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE ON, RIGHT NOW, TO ACCEPT YOUR RESIGNATION. ALRIGHT?! - Suzuki

    AY! Turn all that negative attention where it belongs - on the n00bs. ? Suzuki

    Maybe it was Sidious' handkerchief that threw Mace thirty yards out of a window. And Yoda got thrown a similar distance to the floor while Sidious laughed at his retreating green ass. But I'm sure Yoda had that match won because Sidious frowned once.

    Don't make me laugh, Madine, don't make me ****ing laugh. ? Suzuki

    If this makes you laugh, gufaw away. ? Madine

    oh right! he's on the sith council I think. ? slush

    ...and if Jaws was filmed on the land instead of in the sea he wouldn't have been a menace either. ? Horax

    The rookie is going to own all you people!! And what's up with that Alderaan conference? It's deader than the REAL Alderaan! ? Corran?

    ken you stole durron's towel?!?!?!?!? did you, um, you know, see anything? ? axle

    We've hit an all time low in the Jedi Draft... ? Horax

    i think it's talon kenobi's pick

    somebody must be on his jock. ? axle

    Weird? I lost - SecondBest

    I agree. Effortless had no right whatsoever to derail the draft. Now we have to wait. Thanks.

    ~Corona ? Corona-Horn

    Holy crap, I have never seen that picture used so masterfully before. Excuse me while I convulse on the ground in laughter shortly after hitting the post button. ? Suzuki

    Thus I sent a message to burd, at great cost to him and swore me in as Auxialairy Commishioner for the Weekend. So there is nothing fake about me. The only thing fake is your vain attempts to pass off responsibiliaty. ? Ghost

    last draft madine schooled me 5-1, and now 4-2. so i am improving. ? axle

    was it hard like the bourne supremacy?? ? Ghost

    this should be interesting, you out of your mental faulties ? Ghost

    "those aren't egg pieces! that's my jawbone!" ? axle

    It didn't backfire quite so magnificently, but it was a really dumb trump. ? Firke

    Whoa, whoa whoa, if we start saying Anakin can take the likes of Vodo now, I'm gonna punch my screen causing my hand to have multiple lacerations. ? Burd (few drafts back, but still hilarious)

    The Vader Shira trump wasn't that bad!!!!1!!!one!eleven! I just got gayed with the ORDER in which the numbers were read! ? Suzuki

    What are you gonna do, cry because I said that my posts are more insightful than yours? Because I've got some extra Kleenex. You can have it. Really. No, mi casa su casa. Here. ? Suzuki

    watch out! radioactive man! ? axle

    If he votes Bastila, I'm going to spit in everyone's face, and then break my laptop in two. ? bburditt

    WINDEX, YOU ARE OFFICIALLY MY *****, SHADOW JUST SIGNED THE RELEASE FORM. ? Suzuki

    Madine, you do know that Burhead doesn't read this thread, right? ? Suzuki

    When I saw it, I went "SCHWING!" ? Madine

    is this the past or the future? ? Axle

    I punted that thing into the stratosphere. ? Shadow
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  19. TheForgottenJedi Jedi Master

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    Apr 10, 2004
    star 4
    I simply said it was an eye opener Corran. I see Mace on a level above Kun or Ulic but thats just me.

    Edit: Iam slipping I guess, I had two quotes last time around. :p
  20. GRAND_MOFF_KEVIN Force Ghost

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    Jul 4, 2004
    star 5
    Back then sign-ups didn't end in 15 minutes also.
  21. EMPEROR_WINDU Force Ghost

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    Nov 23, 2002
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    I'm not teasing anyone or demanding anything... I just think both calls were wrong


    I had a nice smiley there for when I asked the judges to take their criticism... I don't get all upset when you tell everyone Qui-Gon sucks, even though there are canonical sources saying he is one of the greatest duelers of the Order


    Around TPM that puts him in the same skill slot as Yoda, Mace Windu, and Count Dooku... Not too bad, certainly not bad enough just to say he sucks at everything



    Either way, I'm not mad... Mostly cause it's a fun game that I'm just a spectator in right now

  22. EMPEROR_WINDU Force Ghost

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    Nov 23, 2002
    star 5
    Nice collection there Burd! [face_laugh]
  23. Mr_Sith Jedi Grand Master

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    Jun 19, 2003
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    I had one quote, and that was as Corona Horn.
  24. Zonama_Mekot Jedi Master

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    Jan 25, 2004
    star 4
    People better than Mace:

    Luke
    Sids
    Yoda
    Obi
    Vader
    Kun
    Revan (bc of his leadership).

    EDIT: I don't get all upset when you tell everyone Qui-Gon sucks, even though there are canonical sources saying he is one of the greatest duelers of the Order

    Ive said this 67.4 times but I'll say it again. "One of the greatest" duelists of the Order is a very broad and general statement. With an order of 10,000 Jedi it doesn't mean all that much. Say one of the greatest means hes in the top 1% which is certainly reasonable, which would put QGJ in the top 100...big whoop. Say "one of the greatest" means the top 0.1% which is EXTREMELY generous. Thats still only top 10 in the PT order. Top 10 would put him somewhere in the range of a 5th rounder. Now I give QGJ a little more credit than that. Even I tend to assume a little about him, since he was trained by Dooku and trained Obi. But other than that and getting SPANKED by Maul, we don't know enough about him to warrant him beating most 3rd rounders and up.
  25. GenMadine Jedi Grand Master

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    Mar 7, 2002
    star 6
    Well, it does not look good for me here in the finals.

    And I think my team is better overall than Sith's, there are other factors besides the one that bburditt is putting his stock into in his decision. And I respect his opinion, but again, like last time he judged my team, I think there is more to consider.

    I hope the other judges vote for me like they did last time and for the same reasons.

    Regardless of what happens, and what vote is cast, it was a well picked number selection by Mr_Sith.

    There is obviously still some great differences in opinions on what Jedi and Sith are better than others and why, and that is what makes this game fun and definitely exciting to play.

    Vader v. Mace - I mean, no matter what happens here in the TEAM decision, this match really hinged on Mace v. Vader, and what an amazing match-up. Sure, I wish Mace pulled it out, and I pointed out why, but really, I can see it both ways, and it was a good match.

    Let's see the final result, and if I lose, I will post my congrats to Sith. If I win, we will need Sith to defeat me again 4 - 2.

    Madine out
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