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Discussion in 'Archive: The Amphitheatre' started by DarthHomer, Jul 14, 2002.

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  1. MatRags

    MatRags Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I found the ending to POTA a bit quirky. I think Burton found the movie a bit too predictible and tryed to add something to shake things up a bit. It did indeed shake things up, but it ended up not improving the movie at all.
     
  2. Mastadge

    Mastadge Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I found PotA weak but acceptable until the ridiculous ending ruined it for me.

    I've got a question: Why didn't Burton direct Nightmare before Christmas? It looks so much like on of his films, and it's a common misconception that he did direct it. So what's the story there?
     
  3. MatRags

    MatRags Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Burton wrote and produced Nightmare Before Christmas, so it is practically is his movie.
     
  4. jedi_master_sauron

    jedi_master_sauron Jedi Youngling star 1

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    has anyone ever seen lisa marie, tim burton's girlfriend in anything other than a tim butron movie?

    we did "ed wood" too right? that's a really good movie.

    "home, . . . i have no home"
     
  5. Duckman

    Duckman Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The ending to POTA was the best part, IMP. It makes perfect sense, if you think about it. If they'd kept the monkey love scene with Helena Bonham Carter and Mark Wahlberg in the film it would have been perfect :)
     
  6. Jedi15

    Jedi15 Jedi Youngling star 4

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    I love Tim Burton. He's probably my favorite director of all time. Many of my all-time favorite movies (Batman, Batman Returns, Sleepy Hollow, Beetlejuice) were directed by him.

    Now, with that said and done...I thought POTA stunk. I thought it was boring, uninspired, poorly written, poorly acted, and poorly directed. Heck, even Danny Elfman's score wasn't all that great (and I usually love his work!). Don't even get me started on that ridiculous ending. The original POTA is by far the better of the two.

    Still, even a great director can make some bad movies. I still look forward to Burton's next film.
     
  7. Darthkarma

    Darthkarma Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Brace yourself, you know what I'd like to see Burton direct? A new film version of the rock opera TOMMY! Before you have a reaction...stop and think about what Burton's vision would be like of the story of the ultimate outsider becoming a Messiah. I'd love to see Tim film his version of the song THE ACID QUEEN.

    [face_laugh] Makes my mind reel.

    I'll be Executive Producer, :)
     
  8. Super_Nation_Jock

    Super_Nation_Jock Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Timmy doing a version of TOMMY?

    I'd pay to see that.
     
  9. DarthHomer

    DarthHomer Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I like POTA. It's probably one of his least impressive films (the least "Burtonesque" if you will) but it's an okay summer blockbuster. Tim Roth and Helena Bonham Carter are great and I love Elfman's main theme. But I'd like to see a more personal film from him next.
     
  10. DarthHomer

    DarthHomer Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    According to [link=http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hollywoodreporter/film/brief_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1571320]Hollywood Reporter[/link]. Ewan McGregor and Albert Finney have been cast in Burton's new film, Big Fish.

    Burton must really like Star Wars actors. So far he's worked with Billy Dee Williams, William Hootkins (Porkins), Natalie Portman, Ian McDiarmid, Christopher Lee and Ray Park :)
     
  11. MatRags

    MatRags Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Thats great news.

    I think Big Fish will be Burton's comeback. It sounds like this could be a more personal film to him like Ed Wood was.
     
  12. Darthkarma

    Darthkarma Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Actually I think Sleepy Hollow and POTA were both successful enough to be considered comebacks.
     
  13. professor_klump

    professor_klump Jedi Youngling star 1

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    The ending of POTA was similar to what the book was. The apes actually lived in cities and drove cars. It's been years since I read it but that ending was not just devised for the movie.
     
  14. Super_Nation_Jock

    Super_Nation_Jock Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Ewan and Burton ought to be GREAT together!
     
  15. Super_Nation_Jock

    Super_Nation_Jock Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'm eager to see this Big Fish movie everyone is talking about.
     
  16. DarthHomer

    DarthHomer Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    So how does everyone rate Burton's films in order? Here's my list, from most "Burtonesque" to least "Burtonesque" :)

    1. Edward Scissorhands
    2. Batman Returns
    3. Ed Wood
    4. Beetlejuice
    5. Sleepy Hollow
    6. Mars Attacks!
    7. The Nightmare Before Christmas
    8. Pee-wee's Big Adventure
    9. Planet of the Apes
    10. Batman
     
  17. Mastadge

    Mastadge Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Haven't seen Ed Wood or Pee-Wee yet.
     
  18. DarthHomer

    DarthHomer Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Dude, you must!
     
  19. Mastadge

    Mastadge Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Ed Wood was supposed to come out on DVD yesterday, but then the studio cancelled that and extended it indefinitely. As soon as it's on DVD, I shall see it.

    Pee-Wee I've just got no interest in.
     
  20. MatRags

    MatRags Jedi Padawan star 4

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    You would be pleasantly suprised by Pee Wee's Big Adventure. Its not like that TV show at all. Its a pretty funny comedy about a man-child who lost his bike.

    I think the funniest part was when Pee Wee danced on on the pool table at a bar to Tequila. Of course thats the only real part I can remeber. Its been several years since I've seen it.
     
  21. Darthkarma

    Darthkarma Jedi Padawan star 4

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    My favorite part of Pee Wee's movie was when he dragged everyone down to the basement for this prolonged, involved lecture on the missing bike and the evidence for the crime.
    The look on everyone's faces while Pee Wee drones on and on is hysterical. [face_laugh]
     
  22. ParanoidAni-droid

    ParanoidAni-droid Jedi Padawan star 4

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    C'mon Madge, Pee-wee's a must. It's one of the most qoutable, frequently watchable, off-the-wall comedies I've ever seen. I think Paul Reubans should have won the academy award for such a great and fleshed out performance... no jest. Though, I should admit that I have a bit of a nostalgic tie to that film, my cousins and I grew up watching it.

    Favorite scene:

    "I'm in Texas, Dotty."
    "Yeah right, Pee-wee."
    "No, look... I'll prove it to you!" *sticks head outside of telephone booth*
    "The stars outsiiiide are big and briiiiight"
    *clap*
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    "DEEP IN THE HEART OF TEXAS!" 8-}

    ~PAd

     
  23. WormieSaber

    WormieSaber Jedi Master star 5

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    Mars Attacks. That's my favorite Burton movie. It's so off-the-wall, and quirky. Only Burton could have pulled that one off.
     
  24. DarthHomer

    DarthHomer Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    It certainly was an anarchic film.
     
  25. rich_meister

    rich_meister Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Gotta love Mars Attacks! and Pee-Wee's Big Adventure. Super movies.
     
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