The TK_Four_Two_One memorial football thread!

It will be a score draw, but a draw nonetheless

I pick Gerrard to score since he can hit it from about 30 yards out
And Crouch will miss about 14 chances

Ruud to score for United


The big Question is how to keep the Midfield from being destroyed with no Scholes around

I doubt Smith and Fletcher will be much good, even with decent wing service

 

I think 0-0 like I thought it would have been at Anfield.

 

Actually, putting my stupid thinking a side 4-1 isn't that stupid. United lost 3-1 to Man City, who we beat 1-0. So the stats nearly back me up.

And we lost 4-1 to Chelsea (not 4-0!) that was just one of them days. It is the only game this season we have even conceded a goal at home! I know we are not at home, but still are conceding has been exceptional this season.

 

By yer reckoning we should thump you, JONJEDI- we beat Chelsi who thumped you 4-1. But reality tells you its never that straight forward.

 

Well stats are never true in football, thats why it is the best sport in the world. But whatever the score please not 0-0! I hate 0-0's so much! I can't express my hatred 0-0!!! As long as the tackles are flying in and Gerrard bursts the net I will be happy.

But heres hoping for an entertaining game!

 

SithLordDarthRichie should be a manager! You would make a fortune! You seem to have a great knowledge about the game.

 

I rekon united will win 2-0, if anyone can crack Liverpool's defence it will be Rooney, Vanbo, Giggs and that Korean guy p).

Looks like Charlton have secured another Bent to renew their old town partnership (kind of) with Euell going the other way (not sure about that one, seems a downgrade for Birmingham).

 

I will be hoping for a draw, of course

 

I want Liverpool to win as it would push them into second (I believe).

 

Liverpool are possible of doing anything. That?s why I'm always optimistic. Whenever hope is lost Liverpool football club is possible of coming through even when it seems all hope is lost. That?s why I never give up on anything in life.

YNWA

 

mick mccarthys red and white army!

robben shouldnt have been sent off no, his first booking wasnt even fair. but yeh, sunderland for life

 

So when Liverpool go through a bad patch again (which happens to all teams) then yer gonna give up on everything in life??? Eh???

 

Lol! Thats not what I meant. I'm just saying some of the games have taught me not to ever give up on anything. Like the FA Cup Final when Arsenal were killing us 1-0 thruogh the whole game then out of the blue Mickey Owen popped up and got us 2 goals that we probably didn't deserve. Needing 3 goals against Olympiakos to go through to the knockouts of the CL and then Gerrard gets that beauty in the last few minutes! Do I need to mention Istanbul? Or even Luton! Some thought after 3-1 down we wouldn't pull that back! I could name a few times when we have pulled through a difficult patch and come out good.

But you stick with a team through thick and thin, I was born into the not so super succesful Liverpool era of the ninteys and I stuck with them all the way through. Now its paying off!

But if they were to get relagated I would still be a fan. Hey, the tickets would be a hell of a lot cheaper.

 

I think showing your support though the bad times is more important. That is why I always used to wear my Liverpool shirt to school after we had lost, I didn't care that I might get told off, and I knew all my mates would laugh at my team, but I had to support them.

 

I'm never not wearing something to do with Liverpool! I never take my Liverpool band off for a start. I hate to think how much money the club has got off me in my life time. I buy all the shirts (home and away) and I have the CL one too, so I have 3 different liverpool shirts for this season alone! Plus the t-shirts with all Champions of Europe and so on that I rushed out and bought this year. Then there is the scarfs, flags, pennants etc.

Nope, I'm not obessesed.

 

Funnily enough, I get told that often

But then these days, anybody could make better decisions then some managers. I've seen loads of managers who make simple mistakes and dont do obvious things that we sitting at home could have thought of.
This week's United game was a good example. As I stated in another post it was obvious that Silvestre was playing badly and was a liability to the team, yet Ferguson kept him on.
I bet most people at home were saying "put Brown on, hes much better", but Ferguson didn't.

Therefore the simple ordinary person can sometimes make a better decision then a proffesional manager.

But generally most of them get it right.



BTW, anyone got any comments on this Sven situation?
I dont see what all the fuss is about. He said things that we already knew.

We knew Beckham wasn't hugely happy at Madrid, or that Owen would prefer a better club then Newcastle, and that Ferdinand is sometimes (or quite often these days) lazy.
So why is everyone getting annoyed when the manager says it?

 

Ummm... trust and team spirit for a start.

 

Well, Sven says the players forgive him and trust him, and I'm inclined to believe that.
Besides, if the truth comes out, then maybe players will move to clubs they actually like playing for

 

More idiotic papers trying to lose us the world cup before we've even go there! Which paper was it?

To be honest I don't really think it will effect the team much at all just a ripple in the media lake that'll soon be forgotten. Besides did anyone read about Joe Cole getting beaten up? Over a page three girl or something like that... If it is even true of course

Town are getting money from the Everton to Charlton Bent deal! Woo hoo, which is handy seeing as we had to give a load of money back to an investor because he's a bit dodgy.

Tell me, all you United fans, how is Scholes looking on the pitch? Is he still playing well? I know he's got a few goals recently but I haven't seen a United game for ages and would love to know what his form is like....

 

The thing is there was absolutely nothing new in the revelations.

Ericson admitted ages ago that he may quit if we win the World cup.

He had already admitted he wanted to return to Club management preferably in the UK

He has admitted he has a close relationship with Beckham.



WE know Ferdinand is lazy, Beckham and Owen are unhappy and that Rooney has a temper and comes from a poor family.


Where was the news here?

 

did it ever occur to you that these people are taking the piss?

as for the sven situation, loon hit the nail on the head:

the papers always try to throw a spanner in the works before any major championship/match, and it is a test of the players character to ignore this and play to their best ability. the papers always try these tricks and yet when we are there and doing well they will back the team 100%, until we have a bad game.

 

Scholes is doing OK, though age is starting to catch up with him.
He has scored a few goals, but these days his job is to pass the ball around accurately, which he can still do. There are few players who do defense-splitting passes and through-balls like Scholes does.
Still, he is getting rather slow and cant tackle anymore without fouling people.

Thats why United need to get new midfielders, cos Scholes is getting rusty and his replacements aren't very good


This Charlton singing of Marcus Bent could get confusing, they've already got Darren Bent playing up front.

 

You can guarentee that the month before the world cup the News of the World will run an article on one or more of the following

a. Erikson having it away with some bird
b. Rooney/Beckham having it away with some bird
c. Problems in the training camp in Malaga
d. Gambling issues probably Owen
e. Player having split up with partner
f. Transfer dealings regarding Chelsea and Gerrard/Rooney/Owen or Real Madrid and the afore mentioned players (excluding Owen)


We have a few friendlies coming up which I don't expect us to look brilliant in as Erikson will try a few rejigs to give him an idea of cover for injuries yet you'll still get the Erikson out camp again (good idea just before a World Cup )


This is going to be his last competition with us so lets just let him get on with it.



On that note who are your 23 for the World Cup and who would be in your starting 11?

 

On that note who are your 23 for the World Cup and who would be in your starting 11?

Ooooo good question!


-------------------------Owen

------------------------Rooney

Downing/Cole------Lampard------Gerrard-----Beckham


Cole-------Terry------Ferdinand/Cambell----Neville

----------------------Robinson


I think Rooney and Owen up front is a must, Owen because he always pops up with a goal regardless of how well he's played and Rooney because even top teams are going to be afraid of him.

The Midfield is a harder choice, Beckham is going to be a first choice regardless of my opinion but Wright-Phillips is not playing or when he is, he's not playing at all well. Lampard and Gerrard are a must, I just hope they start to gel in the up coming friendlies and become the match winners that they are in the league. The left is still a problem and I imagine that Joe Cole will get the nod as we have precious little there (apart from Gerrard who can't seem to find form in that position for England), however Downing should be included in the squad because he can cross and find goals, perhaps a double sub when Crouch comes on (and he will ), just his fitness and form to worry about (Perhaps to young? He is my only 'controversial' choice.

The full backs are a given, as we have little choice there either, Bridge isn't playing and Carr simply hasn't enough experience at international level IMO. Terry hasn't dropped form yet and is a must in my side but the other central defender? Cambell has little commitment to the England side as he seems to magically get injured during the friendlies and Ferdinand needs to find form and stop being a doufos!

Robinson for goalkeeper full stop.

Now the full squad? Crouch, Defoe and Vassell, Green, Kirkland in goal, Downing, Nolan, Cambell, Carrager , Carr and I need to think about the rest? Perhaps Lennon, Barton or Richardson?

Please leave out James and Hargreaves. There are so many possibilities depending on form and I have probably missed out some glaringly obvious players!

 

Full 23:
Robinson, James, G Neville, Brown, Ferdinand, Terry, Carragher, King, Bridge, A Cole, Hargreaves, Gerrard, Lampard, P Neville, Smith, Downing, Beckham, wright-phillips, J Cole, Defoe, Rooney, Owen, Bent

Best 11:
Robinson, G Neville, Terry, Carragher, A Cole, Beckham, Lampard, Gerrard, J Cole, Rooney, Owen.

Its difficult to choose due to the large amount of quality we now have to choose from.
Owen is a great striker, but at times he can be ineffective, so maybe swapping him with Defoe or Bent who have more pace would be advisable.
I left out Crouch as I had limited space and felt there were other players more deserving of a plce then him.
The defensive midfield option is also tricky. I feel Gerrard can fill it well and is also great when attacking. I left out Butt in favour of Hargreaves as I felt Hargreaves has more experience and is better in the position then Butt, though he is still a little shakey