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The Trial of Borsk Fey'lya(and others of his ilk)

Discussion in 'EU Community' started by Christus Regnet, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. Christus Regnet

    Christus Regnet Jedi Knight star 2

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    How does this guy get away with causing so much damage? He obstructs the protagonists again and again, is proven wrong over and over, and no one calls him on his crap. The heroes just grit their teeth and bear it, as if he's untouchable.

    I strongly feel these types of characters are harmful to a story, and not necessary. They might be better suited to a comedy. It's basically a Star Wars trope that the Republic/Rebellion/New Republic, etc be incompetent and have infighting.

    Is this a sign of weak writing? A newer, somewhat similar example is General Draven. Although Draven's actions aren't as severe as some of Borsk's, they are equally illogical.

    Thoughts? Examples of other Fey'lyas? Or does anyone have a defense for the "Obstructionist Antagonist Ally" and their purpose in story?
     
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  2. Darth Caliban

    Darth Caliban Jedi Knight star 4

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    The bigger question imo is how someone like Daala could become chief of state of the GA.
     
  3. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    Abeloth affecting the leaders of the GA early on? :p
     
  4. WarmNyota_SweetAyesha

    WarmNyota_SweetAyesha Chosen One star 7

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    @Christus Regnet -- I agree with you 100%!!!!!! In mystery fiction, this kind of thing shows up and it WORKS my nerve. :rolleyes: :mad: Where the criminal is "smarter" /cleverer than the law enforcement types... :confused:

    I TOO would like to hear an explanation of why Borsk was able to "ride" -- was it just to allow him the opportunity to "get enough rope" as the RL saying goes? :p
     
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  5. Christus Regnet

    Christus Regnet Jedi Knight star 2

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    If I had to vote, and the candidates were Daala and Fey'lya, I would vote green party.
     
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  6. WarmNyota_SweetAyesha

    WarmNyota_SweetAyesha Chosen One star 7

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    [face_laugh] :oops: :eek: Leia was hands down the best Chief of State [face_love]
     
  7. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Master star 4

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    Borsk is a politician and an immensely cynical and self interested one at that.

    He sees as Luke says everyone through the prism of how they can benefit him.
     
  8. Anedon

    Anedon Jedi Master star 4

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    I think the probelm with Borsk is something that is seen quite a bit in SW, a lack of nuance. He is introduced as an antagonistic character and basically stays that, always opposing our protagonists no matter the actual political situation. Instead of giving Borsk an actual political agenda and maybe even ocasionaly have a point, he is just a jerk and we are given the impression that he is a terrible ruler. Borsk is bad Leia and Mon Mothma are good, there is no nuance to that. Which i think wastes a lot of potnetial, Borsk could have been a more practical, political realist as opposed to Mothma and Leias more idealistic position which could have made for a more intersting dynamic showing neither side to be fully in the right.
    But instead we got this carricature of a Botan who switched beween corrupt, bigoted or simply idiotic depending on what kind of bad politican the plot requiered in this moment. And so each time when a writer wanted a bad politican to contrast Leia or Mon Mothma they simply took Borsk no matter how unlikely a yet another political comback would be for him.
     
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  9. Christus Regnet

    Christus Regnet Jedi Knight star 2

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    I have a fairly low opinion of mon mothma. And even Leia, when Fey'lya is around, puts up with his crap, sometimes even attempting to senatorsplain to us(through Han) why Borsk "has a point."

    No, he doesn't, Leia! Come on, do something!
     
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  10. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    I just don't know why Mon Mothma allowed Fey'lya to browbeat her into issuing that warrant in Dark Force Rising...unless he fabricated it, which I wouldn't put past him.
     
  11. Christus Regnet

    Christus Regnet Jedi Knight star 2

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