Senate The U.S. Politics thread

Discussion in 'Community' started by Ghost, Dec 6, 2012.

  1. Blithe Force Ghost

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    Rogue is never embarrassed over what I say.


    Only slightly paranoid.
  2. Emperor_Billy_Bob Chosen One

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    Rogue_Ten, what brand? Anarcho-Syndicalist? European style social democrat?
  3. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    marxist-leninist, but a bit of an unsettled one as yet. i am a (largely inactive at this time for geographical reasons) member of the PSL (party for socialism and liberation) political organization, and im largely satisfied with their political platform and record of direct action in the states they are active in (in the same type of struggles i have participated in with other, more directed organizations in my area), at this time
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  4. Emperor_Billy_Bob Chosen One

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    Holy shizzle. Full on Stalinist? Wow, didn't expect that.
  5. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    well i know im not a trot
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  6. Emperor_Billy_Bob Chosen One

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    Humor me then, RogueTen, as I am actually having a very relevant side conversation on Stalinism on another forum:

    Why has nearly every Socialism in One Country Stalinist regime fallen to overt or covert bourgeois reaction?
  7. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    its hard out here for a pimp
  8. Emperor_Billy_Bob Chosen One

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    Is that a direct quote from Engels?
  9. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    yes. from his sociology of the family writings
  10. Juliet316 Chosen One

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    And hugging. Don't forget the post - Sandy Hugathon.
  11. Lord Vivec Chosen One

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    Man that website is up there with naturalnews in conspiratardom.

    Edit:
    " Cuba is the world’s leader in developing a sustainable, environmentally responsible economy."

    Ahahahahahaha

    " Listening to the U.S. ruling class media today"

    Ahahahahhahahaahahahahhahahaahahahah
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  12. Emperor_Billy_Bob Chosen One

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    The first one is nonsense, the second one isn't.
  13. Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus

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    I agree with that. Many American media outlets are happy to parrot the ruling party's propaganda. I remember how even supposedly respectable newspapers like the New York Times and Washington Post didn't question the Bush administration on much anything for a couple of years after 9/11. The media may lean a bit more liberal than the general population or the elected government, but in some respects it still behaves as if it's state-owned.

    If you really want to rag on far left party platforms, it's easier to start with the basics... like the fact that some of them barely even use the word "socialism" correctly. ;)
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  14. Lord Vivec Chosen One

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    'Elite ruling media' is conspiratard language, mara. I'm ragging on them for being conspiratards.
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  15. Emperor_Billy_Bob Chosen One

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    Too bad that isn't what you quoted upthread.
  16. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    why is the first statement laughable? part of the reason for what they mention is necessity of being cut off from many of the resources of the rest of the world, but cuba is an important environmental model nonetheless. maybe we should all have a superpower in our back yard cutting off trade...
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  17. Ghost Chosen One

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    I don't like Christie, he's not reasonable or cool. He was completely selfish at the GOP convention, and I don't like how he's gutted infrastructure projects as governor. I wouldn't vote for him, for governor or for president.

    I'm just making fun of the GOP for being stupid, since he's clearly their best chance in 2016. :p

    Cain was pretty cool before the whole sexual scandal thing and being a dumb*** on foreign policy, he probably could have been picked as Romney's VP if it wasn't for those things. And I never would have voted for Cain, I just thought that was who the Tea Party was going to line up behind.





    Oh, and the CEO of JP Morgan Chase says they benefit from economic dowturns:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/26/jamie-dimon-benefit-downturns_n_2765462.html
  18. Lord Vivec Chosen One

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    Rogue, I officially declare you worthy of ridicule for posting a conspiratard site unironically. Report tomorrow morning at 8 am to be made fun of mercilessly.
  19. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    its rather telling that you appear to be doing so unilaterally, brah
  20. Emperor_Billy_Bob Chosen One

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    Lord Vivec is the George W of internet shaming
  21. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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  22. Juliet316 Chosen One

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  24. Ghost Chosen One

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  25. Jabba-wocky Chosen One

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    As Rogue Ten touched on, there is a very good case to be made in defense of this statement. Since its days as a plantation colony, agricultural production has always been an important part of the Cuban economy. As long as it was able, it employed the latest techniques of the "Agricultural Revolution" and its industrial farming methods that are still dominant worldwide. However, between the fall of the Soviet Union and the maturation of Venezuela's current regime, there was a significant stretch when Cuba had no real access to subsidized oil. As such, it was priced out of conventional agriculture.

    Castro worked aggressively to try and shift to a more "green/organic" approach as the only real alternative. If nothing else, the country has served as a live laboratory. There's a huge volume of publications from the late 90s and early-to-mid 2000s that comes out of Cuba because of this. While "the" leader may be a stretch, "a" leader certainly is not.