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  1. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    But the House cannot actually accomplish anything without the Senate and the Presidency. The base isn't satisfied with meaningless bills that go nowhere.
  2. Juliet316 Streak for Colours Bonanza Winner

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    Well, at least that's one thing Virginia got right in having a tougher texting while driving law, I suppose.
  3. Skywalker8921 Jedi Grand Master

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    Now full implementation of the health care law has been delayed to New Year's Day 2015.

    I smell a rat here; Obama and those goons in Washington are evidently worried about the increasing opposition, so they're probably hoping that by pushing it off by another year that the Democrats will stay in control of the Senate and maybe take the House as well.

    Honestly, I think this is going to come back and bite everyone - and I mean everyone, not just Democrats but Republicans too - in Washington next year if the Congressional gridlock continues. People are getting fed up with Congress. We badly need a reformation of the Senate and House; term limits should be imposed on both, just as for the Presidency.
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  4. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    Term limits concentrate power in the hands of staffers and lobbyists, for whom term limits do not apply. They generally fail in their original intent wherever they are used, and politicians find ways to circumvent them.

    The false equivalence you make is nonsense and has been for a long time. In a normal political system, the ACA would be amended to make it work better and to fix unanticipated problems. That's not possible with a Republican party that wants it to fail for no other reason than because they think it should.
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  5. Skywalker8921 Jedi Grand Master

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    Oh, for Pete's sakes. I suppose you think it's only the Republicans who oppose the ACA to begin with - that ALL Democrat voters support it, EVEN NOW? Take a look at the MSN article about the dealy. Some of the commentors identify themselves as Democrats, but they're taking Obama to task over the ACA. And notice I said everyone in my earlier post. I am a Republican, yes, and don't like Democrats at all, but even Republicans can be wrong, and so can Democrats. These men may think they're infallible, but they're not; they're all human and not immune from making mistakes.
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  6. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    A significant number of Democrats oppose the ACA because it's not liberal and far-reaching enough, not because they dislike it in general.

    What you're spouting is basically the same as the mainstream noise from the major networks, where people sigh and wonder why both parties can't come together, and it's so unfortunate, and so on. It's always both parties at fault, and can't Obama do a better job of leading, and so on.

    It's nonsense.
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  7. ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio

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    But KW, do you think the ACA is a road map leading to an eventual "more liberal"(don't know what that means. I'm not a liberal and would prefer a single-payer over this) single-payer system?

    I'm not sure this is a road map but a wrong turn.
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  8. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    I think in a better world, there would have been fewer giveaways to companies and a stronger overall approach. That would have required more input from Republicans, though, and all they wanted to do was obstruct, gambling that in the end, nothing would happen and that the status quo would prevail.
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  10. Juliet316 Streak for Colours Bonanza Winner

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  11. vypernight Jedi Master

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    Unfortunately, the GOP still has a rather large following (mostly fundamentalists) that believe their party can do no wrong. It doesn't help that country is developing a horrible, "If you're not with us, then you're against us mentality." Years ago, when I voted for the right, you could slam your own party for its stupidity and people would nod their heads. Now, you could be a gun-toating, God-fearing, gay-bashing Republican, but the moment you point out an error in <insert Republican politician here>'s economic policy, then you're nothing but a sissy commie liberal.

    Of course, the left can be as bad, though I personally haven't seen it nearly as much.
  12. heels1785 SWC Jedi Draft Commissioner

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    This doesn't directly relate to policy, but Ms. Heinz-Kerry is apparently in bad shape after being rushed to Mass. General today. Described as "critical but stable," not really saying what this is.

    Tough few months for Secretary Kerry, real tough.
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  14. Ramza JC Head Admin and RPF Manager

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    Does Rick Perry even have to campaign anymore? I just assumed the bulk of Texas was voting between "Rick Perry (R)" and "Perry, Rick (R)." I hear the latter could pull off an upset.
  15. Darth Guy Chosen One

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    Are there term limits for governors in Texas? Conservatives in the U.S. and self-styled "libertarians" seem to love term limits, so I'd be surprised if there weren't any.
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    Apparently not.
  17. Ramza JC Head Admin and RPF Manager

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    Texas does not have term limits for governor, no. Perry's already got the all-time record for consecutive years served, incidentally.
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    *fixed
  19. Adam of Nuchtern Force Ghost

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  20. Juliet316 Streak for Colours Bonanza Winner

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    Have to admit, I was surprised to hear that he was choosing not to run again.

    I hope this doesn't mean he's decided to go full tilt into a 2016 White House run.
  21. KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus

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    "Oops."

    He'll never live that moment down.
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  24. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    Trillions in tax havens

    I have posted about this a few times before. Tens of trillions in offshore tax havens, while the rich get tax breaks to boot. I continue to be awestruck that there seems ot be no activity from our government to lasso this nonsense.
  25. Rogue_Ten Chosen One

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    its almost as if bourgeois government exists to protect and not to substantially hinder the interests of the bourgeoisie... hmmmm....
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