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Labour expected to lose hundreds of council seats in next weeks local elections;

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-to-lose-hundreds-of-seats-in-local-elections

If things are as bad as this will there be one final push from the PLP to oust Jezza before the general election campaign properly gets underway?

One thing counting against that possibility is that I think Parliament is formally dissolved next Wednesday so by the time the local election results are in next Friday all the MP's will be back in their constituencies and unable to to mount a challenge.

That leaves the only other option for Jezza to fall on his sword. What I know of the Corbyn's that doesn't seem very likely...

 

http://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2017/04/daily-chart-18



Poll of polls.

Interestingly, if you factor it for poor - who are CLASS TRAITORS defined by the Economist as "skilled/unskilled labour/tradespeople", you get:


Very keen to hear excuses from our socialist chums - xenophobia's a good one, but a bit tired. Stupidity another, as well as being duped.

Only the young - ages 18-24 - are likely to vote Labour over other parties, which proves Churchill was right.

 

You're right Ender, I don't have any kind of excuses for that....blank space.

 

May not work because dynamic image. If so:

CONSERVATIVE: 45
LABOUR: 32

CLASS TRAIIIIITTTTTOOOOORRRSSSSSS #hammerandsiksicklebrah

 

Saw a graph yesterday showing that 34 is the "median" age where crossover occurs between someone being most likely to vote Labour (18-33) and most likely to vote Conservative (34+) So in an aging population and given that 18-24 years old's are least likely to turn out and vote, the demographics all favour the Tories.

 

Yeah, I've noticed that too.

I would not be surprised if the Conservatives get 50% at the General Election. Why? As YouGov show, May has rehabilitated the image of the Conservative party and it is beginning to show.



It has been decades since the public had this positive view of the Conservative party; been a long 20 year process to heal the wounds from the 90s.

 

but, Labour membership. Swollen.

 

Yes, the socialist warriors.....who think tweeting abuse at opponents constitutes as activism and don't believe in talking to voters.

 

It baffles me that the public perception of May is that she's doing a good job. I just don't get it.

Either way I'll be voting Lib Dem, which is only the second time where who I want to vote for and who I should vote for (tactically) align.

 

May, doesn't do "Presidential politics" which is what the public likes. Plus, so far in the election, May has been personally knocking on doors and visiting voters in their homes - unlike Cameron's big PR events.

"Not being Cameron" is May's biggest asset in the eyes of the voters.

 

"Not being Corbyn" isn't hurting her chances either. The man is incredibly unpopular among his own party, let alone among the voting public.

Labour had the opportunity to dump him as their leader last year, yet refused to do so. That's partially what has emboldened May to call a general election.

 

I have zero sympathy for moderates within the Labour; you had a chance to dump Jeremy, or form a new party, but didn't. Their careers were more important than providing a suitable opposition.

 

I'm pretty sure Nicola Sturgeon wouldn't have pushed so hard for IndyRef2 so soon after the last one if she'd had her way. Alex Salmond has forced her into it.. Maybe he wants her to fail so he can have another go as First Minister again?

 

Most likely.

Her going to the Left wasn't seen as a positive thing within the upper ranks of the SNP; many thought, and were proved correct, it would allow the Tories to rise quickly within Scotland.

Voters are beginning to notice Scotland is falling far behind the rest of the UK in terms of inequality, poor education and health standards and crimes (a Scottish tradition).

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39776710

Hands up who is surprised!

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*crickets*

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Anyone?

 

May has seen the Queen about the dissolution of Parliament. Now the election formally begins!
However, there are local elections tomorrow. I know the County Council in my area is one up for election. I don't think the local council is though.

 

No, just County and (if you're lucky) those new super regional mayors.

 

None of that here - I don't think my town is large enough for a mayor.

 

Manchester is up tomorrow and I'll be voting and it will be Lib Dems.

the Conservative candidate is well... a Conservative

The Labour Candidate is Andy Burnham

and the Lib Dem is Jane Brophy who actually appears to be a decent individual.




After that it's the general election and I'll be voting Labour then purely to ensure that UKIP and Conservative don't get in as there is a risk that a pro Brexit party may get in this year

 

god how many times can Teresa May say "strong and stable " ?? , someone flip the switch in her back before I go berserk .

 

Yes but what if you actually get Labour in? The soft pro-Brexit party, I mean?

 

Either way I'm screwed.


The only true pro eu party is currently the lib dems and whilst they look stronger they still have no credibility and gave no chance of winning overall but may possibly get some seats.


Labour with Corbyn is a disaster waiting to happen but May and the Tories just appear either clueless or are blind to the realities if the statements coming from Europe.

Hard brexit is a disaster waiting to happen and the Tories will take us there celebrating their own magnificence in the process as the pander to 30 odd percent of the voters who voted out and ignore the rest who voted to remain or were apathetic to the status quo.



Either way the UK is buggered.

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Just saw something that royal staff has been summoned to Buckingham for an "emergency meeting" and there's some speculation out there too. Supposed to be an official announcement at 0800 GMT I think.


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The Palace will issue at statement at 8am UK time, which is GMT+1. That's in one hour. But in response to speculation around the health of the Queen and of Prince Philip, the palace has confirmed both are "alive and well."