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Discussion in 'Community' started by Ender Sai, Jan 6, 2015.

  1. Outsourced

    Outsourced Force Ghost star 5

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    I looked up the story you're talking about. While it is true that Philip May works as a relationship manager for a company whos subsidiary owns 22% of the shares of a company that grows cannabis to use in their medical-cannabis product, I have no idea how what you're talking about could work. GW Pharmaceuticals is actively selling Cannabis-based medicine in the UK, and while it seems to be fairly sketchy given ties to the PM, them decriminalizing Cannabis would actually hurt GW Pharmaceuticals, as it would destroy their current monopoly on cannabis products in the UK.
     
  2. crazyewok

    crazyewok Jedi Knight star 3

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    I worked in the pharma industry, so here is how it would likely go.

    If it was decriminalized or legalized to grow for recreational use and home growing, yes your right that may have the opposite effect. But that not whats going to happen.

    Right now Cannabis can only be prescribed for a very select few conditions and in a very limited format.

    Reviewing of the law and allowing it to be prescribed for other conditions as well as in other formats but still ONLY in a medical context and by licensed pharma company would in fact drive up the demand and market those company's can sell too.

    Put another way. Right now cannabis based products can only be prescribed for likely a few hundred thousand. A change in the law freeing the doctors to prescribe as they like would expand that market into millions. It goes from a niche medical market into a main stream market.
     
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  3. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Regardless of what the government said today, moving towards allowing cannabis for medical use is the first step to legalisation.
     
  4. G-FETT

    G-FETT Chosen One star 7

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    Cannabis will be the "Viagra" of the 2020's... [face_laugh]
     
  5. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    explosion at southgate tube station
     
  6. G-FETT

    G-FETT Chosen One star 7

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    Oh dear. Hope it's not too serious.
     
  7. Darth Punk

    Darth Punk JCC Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    A swing and a miss.

    I hear they’re to rename it Gareth Southgate station
     
  8. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin (2007-2023) - She Held Us Together star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Heard earlier that they think it was an exploding battery - not terror-related. However there were five people injured - two are in hospital.

    BBC News
     
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  9. crazyewok

    crazyewok Jedi Knight star 3

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    EU just passed Articular 13. The term overreaching does not even come near to describing it............. It Something I would expect from the Chinese!

    And a prime example of why I voted out.

    Lucky I have VPN so screw the EU.

    [​IMG]

    In effect I am breaking EU law now.
    [​IMG]
     
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  10. gezvader28

    gezvader28 Chosen One star 6

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    on Brexit I think Jonathan Pie sums it up rather well ( warning -strong language )

     
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  11. Artoo-Dion

    Artoo-Dion Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The real issue with Article 13 is its impact on sites like ResearchGate. It completely cripples the best thing about the Internet.

    And voting "leave" has no impact on this sort of issue. This isn't about the EU. It's about IP law breaking down due to information technology and governments everywhere struggling to come to terms with this fact.
     
  12. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    well going further than that, it's that the holders of big IP are lobbying to resist the changes because they're not evolving the way they really should.
     
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  13. Artoo-Dion

    Artoo-Dion Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't disagree, but I do wonder what "evolve" means when you've got ubiquitous technology that allows the average person to copy and distribute content at zero marginal cost. It makes me think of how VCRs forced timeshifting to be acceptable use--the law can't compete against technology.
     
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  14. Ender Sai

    Ender Sai Chosen One star 10

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    I think the best example is Foxtel, for us. Absolute dinosaurs with a lot of lobbying clout.
     
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  15. G-FETT

    G-FETT Chosen One star 7

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    For me (weather blogger, weather video creator and website owner) A13 is just something else to worry about after the whole GDPR fiasco (and I use the word fiasco in place of much stronger words I wouldn't mind using)

    But I've decided I've spent so much time and effort worrying about GDPR these past months that I'm not going to worry about A13 for at least a couple of months! I've decided that and I'm sticking to that!

    And @Artoo-Dion is correct... For website owners such as myself whether we LEAVE or REMAIN isn't the point. If we are getting EU based traffic we have to comply with GDPR whether or not we are member states of the EU. Or at least we're supposed to... nobody seems to really know what "compliance" actually means.

    I'm yet to discover the joy's of A13 and see how that could affect my weather videos after we leave the EU I must admit.

    Pleased to see we've now got a clear plan for EU citizens after Brexit

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44553225

    It's taken far too long to get to this point but hopefully it will be of some reassurance to @Mar17swgirl and others who have been in "no man's land" since 23rd June 2016.
     
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  16. FatBurt

    FatBurt Sex Scarecrow Vanquisher star 6

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    I'm watching Question Time

    It's been on 5 minutes

    I'm already fuming
     
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  17. G-FETT

    G-FETT Chosen One star 7

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    Who's on tonight?
     
  18. FatBurt

    FatBurt Sex Scarecrow Vanquisher star 6

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    King Gammon Tim Martin of Weatherspoons

    Damian Green (Tory liar who's just been caught out on a changing story in the last 4 weeks)

    And three other Asshats
     
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  19. G-FETT

    G-FETT Chosen One star 7

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    Sounds like another one to miss then...
     
  20. FatBurt

    FatBurt Sex Scarecrow Vanquisher star 6

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    At least its not Farage


    We've just had some spanner say that we should privatise the NHS



    I hate my country at times.


    Finally moved on from Brexit.

    Now discussing if Cannabis should be legalised for recreational use.

    Easy, yes and tax it.
     
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  21. Mar17swgirl

    Mar17swgirl Chosen One star 7

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    It is reassuring, yes, to finally have solid rules in place that aren't just vague promises. Looks like the only thing that could threaten this is a No Deal scenario, but I can't really see that happening - that would be an actual national and economic suicide.

    Of course, I don't think Everton will be fully satisfied until I finally have my UK citizenship and am properly untouchable... :p
     
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  22. G-FETT

    G-FETT Chosen One star 7

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    If you was to take the public utterances of both sides at face value you would think it's highly likely we're heading for "No Deal" - But I think/hope behind the scenes productive talks are taking place and a lot of what we're heading from the Commission and UK government is for public consumption.
     
  23. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 9

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    I'm not sure what deal we can get without involvement in the customs union and/or single market.
    I assumed we'd go for the Norway type of deal, makes the most sense.

    Irish border is still the biggest problem, I don't see how that can be resolved without some kind of physical barrier.
     
  24. G-FETT

    G-FETT Chosen One star 7

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    I'd be happy with Norway/EEA. Suspect that will be where we finish up in the end (after several years of "transitional arrangements")

    Have been surprised at how resilient Theresa May has been. Despite everything she seems to keep plodding on lol...
     
  25. SithLordDarthRichie

    SithLordDarthRichie CR Emeritus: London star 9

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    Probably because no-one else wants the responsibility.
    And she can get the blame & take the fall when it goes wrong