The Ultimate Editions: Discussing Changes to Possible Upcoming Releases of the Saga

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  1. darkjedi Force Ghost

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    My notes on what I'd like to see on the BluRay from watching the saga on DVD over the last couple of weeks:

    Deleted Scenes I'd like to see:
    Episode 1 ? extended Tatooine duel between Maul & Qui-Gon
    Episode 1 ? Obi-Wan explaining why his lightsaber doesn?t work in the swamp
    Episode 2 ? attack on the droid control ship
    Episode 2 ? Lost 20 library scene
    Episode 3 ? Extended Obi-Wan & Anakin duel
    Episode 3 ? Captain Needa scene
    Episode 3 ? Qui-Gon scene
    Episode 4 ? Luke watching the space battle
    Episode 4 ? Luke meets Biggs and friends
    Episode 4 ? Biggs informs Luke he?s jumping ship
    Episode 5 ? Wampa scene/attack
    Episode 6 ? Luke builds a lightsaber
    Episode 6 ? The sandstorm
    Episode 6 ? Darth Vader forces his way into the Emperor?s chambers
    Episode 6 ? General Madine commands a ship during the battle
    Episode 6 ? B-Wings in battle

    Movie Revisions if more changes are coming, here's what I'd like to see:

    Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace

    ? Touch up all CGI
    ? Sync up the Neimoidians dialog and lip movements
    ? Change Panaka?s line ?we?ll be sitting ducks?
    ? Reinsert Extended Pod Race Lap 2 scene
    ? Reinsert Farewell To Jira scene
    ? Replace fake Mace Windu on Naboo

    Star Wars Episode II: Attack Of The Clones

    ? Update Zam?s crash
    ? Update Anakin riding on animal during waterfall scene
    ? Edit the fireplace scene so it isn?t so horrible
    ? Update Qui-Gon?s voice during the Tusken slaughter
    ? Have Padme use a different button instead of the magic button while on Tatooine
    ? Update Padme riding beast in arena
    ? Have Mace look at Jango when he decapitates him

    Star Wars Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith

    ? Add sound of R2?s rockets as he exits the scrap pile
    ? Make the Jedi look less stupid when Sidious attacks the 4 of them
    ? Add sound to Yoda?s lightsaber during order 66
    ? Swap Obi-Wan?s and Anakin?s lightsabers back to the right person

    Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope

    ? Use updated version of 20th Century Fox Fanfare
    ? Smooth out jump when R2 extends his leg
    ? Redo the scene when C-3PO spots the Jawa transport
    ? Cut R5 out of scene where he?s in two places at once
    ? Fix Tusken Raider that attacks Luke
    ? Smooth out Luke first igniting his lightsaber
    ? Color Luke?s green lightsaber to be blue
    ? Color Luke?s white lightsaber to be blue
    ? Fix the lightsabers during the Obi-Wan vs. Vader duel
    ? Remove matte lines from TIE Fighters
    ? Redesign the Death Star plans on the rebel computers
    ? Fix R2?s sudden jump in the background of the Luke & Biggs reunion
    ? Add the Death Star trench to the background during Luke?s run

    Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

    ? Fix Luke?s lightsaber powering down sound as he runs out of the wampa cave
    ? Remove matte lines
    ? Change Luke?s line back to ?you?re lucky you don?t taste very good?
    ? Change Darth Vader?s line back to ?bring my shuttle?

    Star Wars Episode VI: Return Of The Jedi

    ? Flip Boba Fett?s visor during the thermal detonator scene
    ? Change Han Solo?s line back to ?Trust me?
    ? Darken the eyes on the Ewoks so we can?t see the actors
    ? Touch up the suddenly appearing TIE fighters during the Death Star attack
    ? Smooth out the AT-ST dragging the Ewoks
    ? Remove the black blob that is on the Emperor?s face
    ? Fix Vader & Luke?s lightsaber cross in front of the Emperor
    ? Remove Luke?s lightsaber from Vader?s left hand during the duel
    ? Fix Luke?s lightsaber as he?s looking at his hand
    ? Make the Executor explosion more epic
    ? Make young Anakin ghost look more dignified

  2. MrFantastic74 Jedi Grand Master

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    Darn, I just realized that I'm wrong, and I'm kicking myself for forgetting lines from my favorite saga. Han doesn't say that line until later when he's talking to Leia aboard the falcon.

    In any case, I still think that Luke is intending to say "well", not "wealth", in the sense of "you will be paid more well than you can imagine". It's not exactly the best sentence structure, but hey, he's a farmboy from a dust-bowl planet.
  3. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    From the script:

    HAN: Marching into the detention area is not what I had in mind.

    LUKE: But they're going to kill her!

    HAN: Better her than me...

    LUKE: She's rich.

    Chewbacca growls.

    HAN: Rich?

    LUKE: Yes. Rich, powerful! Listen, if you were to rescue her, the reward would be...

    HAN: What?

    LUKE: Well more wealth that you can imagine.

    HAN: I don't know, I can imagine quite a bit!

    LUKE: You'll get it!

    HAN: I better!

    LUKE: You will...
  4. shanerjedi Jedi Master

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    Funny. I always heard it as "more well" too. But the meaning is the same.
  5. halibut Chosen One

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    He does say "well than" as he fails to repronounce the "th" sound
  6. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Grand Master

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  7. halibut Chosen One

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  8. drg4 Force Ghost

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    Does anyone else feel like they're in the middle of a really bad Seinfeld episode?
  9. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    The answer is "the Moops".
  10. DARTH_BELO Force Ghost

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    What's this "Obi-Wan's lightsaber not working in the swamp" thing mentioned, in TPM? I've never heard of that. :confused:
  11. Jedi_Keiran_Halcyon Jedi Grand Master

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    Yeah, there was a cut scene where Obi gets his lightsaber wet and it shorts out, then Qui-Gon scolds him (similar to what we got with Obi-Wan yelling at Anakin for losing his lightsaber in AotC).

    Presumably, Lucas re-watched The Wizard of Oz or Signs and realized what a lame weakness water is. Want to fight a Jedi? Just turn on the sprinklers.
  12. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    If we go by the adventures of Kit Fisto in Genndy's cartoon, they work just fine underwater.
  13. Jabba_The_Hutt_123 Force Ghost

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    Kit had modified his sabre due to his aquatic nature.
  14. TadoFett Force Ghost

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    I noticed something that may, or may not indicate a small change being made to The Empire Strikes Back for the Blu-ray release.

    For those of you who own Star Wars: The Essential Atlas, look at the capsule summary of The Empire Strikes Back on page 186. At the bottom, there is a thumbnail picture of the end of the movie with Luke, Leia and the droids looking out the medical bay window on the medical frigate.

    In previous releases, they have been gazing out at the entire Star Wars galaxy from a distance. I remember people complaining that it was unrealistic that they would be that far away from known space, and this was compounded by the fact that Hoth and the rendezvous point are well within the Star Wars galaxy, according to both this atlas, and previous EU materials.

    Anyway, in this small thumbnail picture, the heroes are staring out not at the galaxy, but at what looks like a stellar nebula and stars. It is possible that this was something altered just for the atlas, since it clearly shows Hoth and the rendezvous point well within the galaxy, but that would be a lot of effort for a picture barely larger than a postage stamp. The atlas came out in 2009, and is current up until about Season 2 of The Clone Wars, so maybe this is a change they have made for the upcoming release? What do you guys think? I would be in favor of this tweak if they made it.
  15. Alexrd Force Ghost

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  16. DARTH_BELO Force Ghost

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    This is something that's always bothered me as well. I remember there was a whole thread on how to explain it away, but still. It's interesting to know that the Atlas was released that long after the 2004 DVDs. I would HOPE that is a change they made-not a priority for me, but it would be enjoyable. I'd actually say it's actually realistic to think this may actually have changed...


  17. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    Well, we can also tell from AOTC and the Genndy cartoon that they work in the rain.
  18. TadoFett Force Ghost

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    I scanned that picture from the end of The Empire Strikes Back from the Atlas. I am not sure how to upload a picture onto here though. When I hit image, it wants a link.
  19. Alexrd Force Ghost

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    It's not the same thing as being submersed under water. That's why Obi-Wan's saber had failed in TPM.
  20. TadoFett Force Ghost

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    Didn't Obi-Wan use a lightsaber underwater in the Clone Wars episode Arc Troopers? Maybe the reason Lucas cut that scene out of TPM was because he reconsidered lightsabers not being able to function underwater?
  21. CaptainYossarian Force Ghost

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    If it's the same as this one then it's one of the retouched frames that were released for TESB publicity. So it's been around since the film came out rather than being done more recently. They mention and show some of the retouched images in The Making of TESB book. I don't know why they changed the image so much though, I suppose they must have thought it looked more interesting or colourful.

    TESB Nebula image
  22. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    link
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  24. kenkraly2007 Jedi Grand Master

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    Movie changes and additional scenes if more changes are coming, here's what I'd like to see:

    Star Wars Episode I: The Phantom Menace
    ? Digital Yoda

    Star Wars Episode II: Attack Of The Clones
    ? Update Qui-Gon?s voice during the Tusken slaughter
    ? More Clone Troopers

    Star Wars Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith
    ? Add Qui-Gon Jin as a Ghost Talking to Yoda on Polis Massa

    Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope
    ? Use updated version of 20th Century Fox Fanfare
    ? Smooth out Luke first igniting his lightsaber
    ? Color Luke?s green lightsaber to be blue
    ? Color Luke?s white lightsaber to be blue
    ? Fix the lightsabers during the Obi-Wan vs. Vader duel
    ? Remove matte lines from TIE Fighters
    ? Special Effects Touch Up's
    ? Fix The Lighsaber Colors
    ? Fix The Sound Mix and have the force fanfare sound clearly and not dialed down in the sound mix.
    ? Fix The Color Timing

    Star Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
    ? Fix Luke?s lightsaber powering down sound as he runs out of the wampa cave
    ? Remove matte lines
    ? Change Luke?s line back to ?you?re lucky you don?t taste very good?
    ? Change Darth Vader?s line back to ?bring my shuttle?
    ? Special Effects Touch Up's
    ? Fix The Lighsaber Colors
    ? Fix The Color Timing

    Star Wars Episode VI: Return Of The Jedi
    ? Remove the black blob that is on the Emperor?s face
    ? Fix Vader & Luke?s lightsaber cross in front of the Emperor
    ? Remove Luke?s lightsaber from Vader?s left hand during the duel
    ? Fix Luke?s lightsaber as he?s looking at his hand
    ? Special Effects Touch Up's
    ? Fix The Lighsaber Color
    ? Fix The Color Timing


  25. Alexrd Force Ghost

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    Go to imageshack.us and upload the picture. Click on the picture, copy the link and post it here. ;)
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