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Discussion in 'Community' started by PRENNTACULAR, Nov 25, 2006.

  1. Baron-Soontir-Fel

    Baron-Soontir-Fel Jedi Knight star 5

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    Hold on a minute, Juli. Vick was winning games and everyone's hearts left and right his first few years.
     
  2. THE_JEDI_GUARDIAN

    THE_JEDI_GUARDIAN Jedi Youngling star 3

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    How the hell did the chiefs lose??? This season sucks.
     
  3. Yodave27

    Yodave27 Jedi Master star 4

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    Herman Edwards!

    J/K!

    Kinda.
     
  4. PRENNTACULAR

    PRENNTACULAR VIP star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  5. Baron-Soontir-Fel

    Baron-Soontir-Fel Jedi Knight star 5

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    J E T S JETS JETS JETS!
     
  6. PRENNTACULAR

    PRENNTACULAR VIP star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Don't talk to me.

    You know what, I am sort of happy. Because instead of pretending they were a good team, just enough to get my hopes up (and then crushed), they just got the snot beat out of them. It was easier to watch than the game last week, where I thought we had a chance.
     
  7. solojones

    solojones Force Ghost star 9

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    He could have called more blitz, and used some more timeouts in a few situations... but the knock on Edwards has always been conservative offense. Let's look at that, shall we:

    Trent Green- 297 yds, 4 TD, 1 Int, 129 rating
    LJ- 100+ yds
    Tony G- 99 yds, 2 TD
    Eddie Kennison- 117 yds

    Doesn't look like our offense was conservative or the problem, does it? No, I'd say this is 100% on the defensive players. There were multiple opportunities to make a key stop, and had they made ONE of them, we would have been solid. But no.

    Major 2002-2005 déja-vu on this one [face_plain]


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  8. darth_nemisis

    darth_nemisis Jedi Master star 6

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    Wow, I must say, the Browns won a heck of a battle! I was up at that stadium, and as we tied it up, that place was going crazy! It was awesome!
     
  9. Baron-Soontir-Fel

    Baron-Soontir-Fel Jedi Knight star 5

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    Wasn't Edwards brought in to improve the Chiefs' defense?
     
  10. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC/PT/New Films Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    He has.

    They're the 12th best defense in the [link=http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2006/regular?sort_col_1=4]NFL[/link].

    Just one, maybe a few bad games. :)
     
  11. Baron-Soontir-Fel

    Baron-Soontir-Fel Jedi Knight star 5

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    But timing is everything: this was a particularly costly loss that brings the Chiefs back to the pack in the wild card race.
     
  12. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC/PT/New Films Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I would agree with that, it was also a game they were very much expected to win.
     
  13. solojones

    solojones Force Ghost star 9

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    Maybe by everyone else, but that was certainly not the feeling in KC. We've been scared of the game all week. It's an angry team that was whipped last week at home and has only won once at home all year. This was a really bad time to go in there. I have been worried all week that this was going to be a close game and that we might lose. Even though we did well in this game offensively, I never felt good about it all game.

    Edwards HAS improved the defense in general this season. But this game there were lots of missed tackles. Our overall defensive quality has been down since back Derrick Johnson has been out the last 3 games. And tackle James Reed was out this week, then his backup went out in the 3rd quarter. So we were playing with our third string there. That also made it easier for them to double team and contain Jared Allen and Tamba Hali. So the defense wasn't in a great position injury-wise, but they also just blew some tackles that should have been easy.

    Edwards haters of course want to simplify it to him. But this is simply a failure of a crippled defense to step up and do their freaking job.

    But so much for A_J's claim last week that Trent Green has been "horrible" :p
    [hl=darkred]-sj loves kevin spacey[/hl]
     
  14. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    hey Jay, being a starting quarterback isn't easy, is it? more like, "hey broncos fans, isn't it funny how cutler gave you the same results as plummer?"

    serves them right.

    edit: oops. too bad they didn't do that last bit for plummer.
     
  15. solojones

    solojones Force Ghost star 9

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    Ahhahaha. Both Seattle and Denver player like crap, but hooray for Cutler continuing to give the hawks more chances to come back.

    10/21, 143 yd, 47.6, 2 TD, 2 Int, 62.3 rating... stats can be deceptive but in this case I think it's about right. They needed him to pass and he didn't do much. And he made a couple very rookie mistakes. I'm not saying he won't be good eventually. He might be. But this was a very Plummer-esque showing.


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  16. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC/PT/New Films Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    But you gave the answer in your response. Plummer has been around far too long to continue making rookie mistakes, which he does on a consistent basis.

    I think Denver will be fine with Cutler, and Plummer will end up in Tampa or some place to finish out his disappointing career. Good riddance.
     
  17. solojones

    solojones Force Ghost star 9

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    True, that's how Plummer was playing, but really the switch at this point in the season is not an inspiring move for the team on the whole. It's really hard to get into any kind of end of season rhythm when everything changes. Not saying it would have been much better with Plummer but it's still a weird move.

    Oh hey, KW, I was happy to see the Cards win :)


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  18. PRENNTACULAR

    PRENNTACULAR VIP star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Plummer can come play in Green Bay. We need a Quaterback.
     
  19. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC/PT/New Films Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    That's another option for him.
     
  20. solojones

    solojones Force Ghost star 9

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    It's a sad day for your team when you're chasing after Jake Plummer.


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  21. KnightWriter

    KnightWriter Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    thanks, rachel :). today's was a good win, even as it costs the cardinals some draft position. oh well.

    and it's always nice to see the cardinals' receivers in action, win or lose.

    Not saying it would have been much better with Plummer but it's still a weird move.

    i agree. when the cardinals switched to leinart, there was still the majority of the season left. now? a little tardy on the fastball, i think, and past time for such a big move.
     
  22. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC/PT/New Films Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Extremely.

    I do hope the Jets will deal us Kellen Clemens now that Pennington is playing well, or better yet, Pennington (if they're feeling generous), as McNair doesn't have long left. I'm not sure he plays after this year if he takes a couple more tough hits, honestly.

    However, I will be grateful to Steve for what he's done for us already this year, brought back the winning mentality lost under Boller last year. If Steve does retire, under no circumstances do I want Plummer--I don't think Billick would take that kind of guy, either, I don't see him meshing well with a hothead, nor do I see Ray Lewis accepting Plummer in a million years.

    So, on behalf of the Ravens, just say no.
     
  23. Baron-Soontir-Fel

    Baron-Soontir-Fel Jedi Knight star 5

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    I can imagine Clemens will be bumped up to #2 by next season, as while Pennington's career revival is great, instances like last week mean he can still go down (possibly for the count if the needs a third shoulder surgery) anytime.

    Go draft your own quarterback. :p
     
  24. solojones

    solojones Force Ghost star 9

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    So has there ever been a QB rating lower than 1.3 in the NFL? And does this mean the Bears don't need to have an offense at all or what?

    [hl=darkred]-sj loves kevin spacey[/hl]
     
  25. ApolloSmileGirl

    ApolloSmileGirl Jedi Knight star 8

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    God I wish the Cowboys could get a crack at the Bears this season.