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Discussion in 'Community' started by PRENNTACULAR, Nov 25, 2006.

  1. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    The 2008 Detroit Lions would like to have word with you.
     
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  2. Grimby

    Grimby Technical Consultant & Former Head Admin star 7 Staff Member Administrator

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    Yeah, you guys totally got the raw deal in the '83 draft picking Blackledge over Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, and even Ken O'Brien. Probably the reason the Chiefs haven't drafted a QB in the first round since. I'm sure everyone thought Cassel was the answer after Denver wanted him so badly. (Well, McDaniels at least.) I still think it's funny you guys have both Brady Quinn and Peyton Hillis now.
     
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  3. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Do you really want to be married to a QB pick from a middling class for the next couple years, though? Do you want to waste the value of a number one pick on a less-than-elite QB prospect? At the very minimum, that number one could be used to trade down a few spots, pick up some more picks, and still get Smith. And not have to pay him as much, either. Making a move just to make a move, value for the pick be damned, gets teams paying too much to Blaine Gabbert for however many years and being in a lousy position to pick a quarterback if a really good one does come out in the next two years. Smith should be taken where the team is getting value for him, not where it's overspending for the sake of flailing after a miracle. If, next year, some big talent comes out and you're begging the Chiefs to draft this guy in the first round too and there's no way they're giving up on Smith that quick, or worse yet, in three years you're paying Smith number-one-pick money to back up Mark Sanchez, don't say you weren't warned.
     
  4. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral VIP star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I'm still in shock that Pittsburgh won yesterday. I wonder how many times a time has had back-to-back games against Baltimore and Cleveland, went 1-and-1, and had the win come over Baltimore? :p

    And ... Grimby ... the hilarity runs deeper than Quinn/Hillis. The Kansas City Briefs have a bunch of Browns retreads. So, really, no one should be surprised they are in contention for the #1 pick.
     
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  5. Rox

    Rox Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I agree with Havac I would trade down and if you still want Geno Smith he'll still be there are 4 or 5. This years QB class is mediocre at best. Lots of career future backups.
     
  6. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral VIP star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Just remember --- Matt Ryan was a mediocre quarterback who was only getting hype because he was the best QB in a weak QB class.
     
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  7. anidanami124

    anidanami124 Jedi Master star 6

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    Cough 0-16 Lions Cough only two teams in the history of the NFL have not won a game. The first was Tampa Bay was the first team two lose all there games and really lowerd the bar. The Lions lowered it even more then they did.

    Oh by the way me calling the Ravens Steelers game may have been what did it for the Steelers.[face_waiting]
     
  8. Point Given

    Point Given Mod of Literature and Community star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Batch really deserved his win. He made a great block to set up that rushing TD

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. The Great No One

    The Great No One Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    1. i was talking about that particular season, in which the colts won two games i believe. so that's pretty damn close to that bar.

    2. the bucs didn't win for 26 games, which is almost two full seasons so the 08 lions, while bad, can't even sniff it.

    3. losing every game in a season is incredibly rare, probably why it's only happened twice, and honestly probably shouldn't be in the discussion for setting a bar low in a normal season because it's just so frelling insane.

    so yes, the 08 lions could have something to say about it, the 76-77 bucs would laugh at them, but in the context of what i was talking about anyone catching the colts last year in losing was exceedingly unlikely. because it wasn't one of those rare, bizarre seasons when someone does the impossible and just doesn't win.
     
  10. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    I feel bad for Jamal Charles. His wife was Kassandra Perkins cousin and they introduced her to Belcher.
     
  11. Point Given

    Point Given Mod of Literature and Community star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Well that sucked.
     
  12. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC/PT/New Films Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Good point. I wish there was a Ryan for every Jimmy Clausen or Akili Smith, but he certainly worked out for Atlanta.

    My take: With Peyton Manning tearing up our division for the next few years, even if we could fix all of our problems in one year (impossible), we still have a 2-3 year roadblock, it looks like. Trade down, target Murray, Barkley, whoever. Hit free agency, and sign a serviceable veteran who can mentor and still give us a shot at 7-8 wins next year- Hasselbeck, Orton, Matt Moore. None are huge upgrades over Brady Quinn, but all three can do a better job keeping 8 guys out of the box to free up Charles, and they won't crush us financially in the way Cassel would.

    Assuming he is let go and does not land somewhere as a HC, a strong push could be made for Norv Turner to come run the offense and develop our draft pick for a year. New coach, new front office, largely new team may buy some time for growing pains, as long as there is a clear path towards getting better, which doesn't exist right now. Might work.
     
  13. MarcusP2

    MarcusP2 Games and Community Reaper star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    This was more my point. There is no point getting angsty over winning a game and possibly losing the #1 pick when there are several equally-rated QBs available at any pick in the top 10.
     
  14. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    I swear if our stupid defensive lineman costs us this game with that horsecollar.... :mad:


    [face_nail_biting][face_nail_biting][face_nail_biting]


    ^:)^[face_clown][face_dancing][face_dancing][face_dancing][face_party]
     
  15. solojones

    solojones Force Ghost star 9

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    And I understand the point, but at the same time, I don't want Matt Barkley. IMHO, USC QBs are frauds. The rest of their team is usually so good that it makes them look much better. Also, I don't really want anyone who's a product of a Lane Kiffin. Blech. I don't know, it's hard not to be biased because, in spite of getting in there for both undergrad and grad, I hate USC. Could never bring myself to go there.
     
  16. DT421

    DT421 Jedi Master star 5

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  17. Point Given

    Point Given Mod of Literature and Community star 6 Staff Member Manager

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  18. The Great No One

    The Great No One Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    that won't come back to bite them at all. sanchez is like grossman, with fewer good games.
     
  19. LloydChristmas

    LloydChristmas Jedi Master star 4

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    AND on the day Jovan Belcher killed himself at the practice facility, a Browns employee did the same.

    There's some major Kreia/The Exile Force-bonding going on between these franchises.
     
  20. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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  21. Rox

    Rox Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    For healing up sake I would think about sitting Big Ben one more week. The Chargers aren't that great.
     
  22. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    On the other hand, a bad Chargers team would be the perfect way to shake off the rust from the layoff.

    I'm a bit worried about the 'Skins chances with the Ravens. Whenever the Ravens get torched like they did against the Steelers last week, Flacco usually turns into a Tom Brady clone and torches the next team he's facing.[face_nail_biting]
     
  23. Darth McClain

    Darth McClain Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If Ben's ready, you've got to play him. I think that they learned their lesson from the 49ers game last year. Tomlin was happy with how Ben threw today.
     
  24. LloydChristmas

    LloydChristmas Jedi Master star 4

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    Complete with Uggs?
     
  25. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    I was talking more about on the field than off. Far as I know Flacco doesn't have a Supermodel wife. If he did, she'd probably would not have let him be caught out of the house with that fu - man - chu he had during the end of last season. :p