Arena The (un)Official NFL Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Community' started by PRENNTACULAR, Nov 25, 2006.

  1. Juliet316 Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Apr 27, 2005
    star 7
  2. Juliet316 Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Apr 27, 2005
    star 7
  3. Juliet316 Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Apr 27, 2005
    star 7
  4. Rox Administrator Emeritus

    Member Since:
    Nov 24, 2000
    star 6
    Roethlesberger is expected to restructure his deal to free up a bunch of cap room by weeks end. Timmons already has today so thats a plus. Rumor is they are pretty interested in wide receiver Steve Breaston. I don't understand this at all. Breaston is a slot receiver they have a handful of those. They need to replace or sign Wallace. Putting a slot guy on the end is kind of blah.
  5. solojones Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Sep 27, 2000
    star 9
    Nah, Clark Hunt wouldn't have let him do that. He values his investments a bit more. And Crennel is an idiot, but I don't think he would have pushed RG3 to play that injured.
  6. Juliet316 Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Apr 27, 2005
    star 7

    So it's all Shanahan's fault for RGIII's injury? There's like, no way that RGIII, knowing how high the stakes were in the Dallas game, didn't just say all the right things the coaches wanted to hear and hid any pain/sorness/stiffness he was feeling in his knee; then paid for it a week later in the Seattle game? I mean, yes, the coaches should have had more talks with James Andrews about the condition of RGIII's leg was before letting him play in Dallas and Seattle, but let's face it, in the NFL these days unless it's a concussion, if a team's best player says he's ready to play, then 90% of the time a coach is going to let that player play (Gronk for example, you could easily make the case that perhaps if Belichek had put Gronk on injured reserve instead of letting in play in the playoffs, then he wouldn't have needed three surgeries for his broken arm already). And most players admit they will downplay/hide injures to get back out on the field.


    Yes, Shanahan probably deserves a big chunk of the blame for rushing RGIII back on the field before he was truly ready, but I don't think it's as absolutely 100% as you believe.
  7. JM_1977 Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    May 23, 2011
    star 6
    Alex Smith has been traded to the Chiefs. Finally that team makes a good move
    Asterix_of_Gaul likes this.
  8. Eeth-my-Koth Chosen One

    Member Since:
    May 25, 2001
    star 9
    @solojones
    Probably the best thing the Chiefs could have done. Now dump that #1 pick for some middle round hidden gems.
  9. DT421 Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Nov 6, 2003
    star 5
    It's about time. The Niners pretty much ruined Smith's career from day one. Glad to see Smith finally get away from them and hopefully have a better time of it in KC.
  10. JM_1977 Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    May 23, 2011
    star 6
    Now KC doesn't have to draft a QB and place their future in the unknown abilities of a rookie player.
    Juliet316 likes this.
  11. Juliet316 Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Apr 27, 2005
    star 7
    Last edited by Juliet316, Feb 27, 2013
    JediMaster_1977 likes this.
  12. solojones Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Sep 27, 2000
    star 9
    Now? You clearly didn't read my posts during the game :p But seriously, if I at home could tell that they were going to get him seriously injured, how could Shanahan not? I mean, of course he had to know that was possible, but he's so incredibly arrogant in the way he coaches that I'm sure he thought RGIII would be invincible. But the bottom line is that he shouldn't have even been playing in that game. And even if he was, he shouldn't have been running. And even if he was, he shouldn't have kept running when they could have given it to other people and he could hardly even walk at that stage. These are a head coach's decisions to make, bottom line. It rests almost entirely on Shanahan's shoulders because, guess what, that's the responsibility you assume when you're a leader and it's ultimately your call whether someone plays and how they are utilized if they do play. Period. Sorry Shanahan, but coaching isn't all about finding creative ways to cheat, as much as we know you like doing that.

    The problem is that I don't think they're going to be able to trade down. I mean I guess if someone really wants a QB and wants to reach. The thing is, in my heart I still believe Geno Smith has the tools to be a really good NFL QB. I'm not saying that means he necessarily will be, and I totally understand the risk involved... but it just rubs me the wrong way to not even go after such an opportunity. I'm not kidding, I would do what Seattle did and still draft a QB even though we have a veteran. Because the thing is, we still don't have any good backups at all either, and we have gotten burned in the past trading for QBs is all.

    I mean, yes, Alex Smith is way better than Cassel ever was, even his one year starting in New England. And it's obviously a much higher level of confidence than having to draft and develop a rookie. As you guys probably know, I like Alex Smith a lot. I think it's a good get, I'm just disappointed our first ever first overall pick had to come in such a crappy draft. I mean, I don't really think there are players in any position who are worth #1 overall money in this draft. Just our luck.

    Nothing's ever a sure thing. But the only big downside to this of course is that even if Smith stays on a roll and doesn't slip back into mediocrity again (which I don't think he will), he's still 28. But here's the thing, and what I've tried to tell my mom (who is really pissed about this because she really wanted to draft Geno)... Trent Green was 30 when we traded for him, and he was the best QB we've had since Len Dawson. With Alex Smith, we might only get 6-8 years really, but if they are a good 6-8 years I really don't care. I am guardedly optimistic.
  13. Eeth-my-Koth Chosen One

    Member Since:
    May 25, 2001
    star 9
    There's talk of the 49ers interested in trading some of the million picks they have for Revis. Not sure if the jets are even interested in entertaining that idea. But if I was the Chiefs I would dangle that #1 pick plus another pick for Revis. People want to point out that Revis has crappy numbers the last few years. But what they forget is that it's hard to put up numbers when the QB ignores your half of the field. Shutting down half the field for the offense > stats.
  14. The Great No One Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Jun 4, 2005
    star 8
    yea. deion sanders had the same problem. although he'd still force the issue sometimes.
  15. LloydChristmas Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    Sep 3, 2012
    star 3
    HEY! You spelled his name right.
  16. Juliet316 Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Apr 27, 2005
    star 7
  17. heels1785 Jedi Draft and Streak for Colors Commissioner

    Game Host
    Member Since:
    Dec 10, 2003
    star 6
    Jay Glazer reporting that Flacco and Baltimore have a deal, finalized Monday.

    Edit- Just missed the last line of your post, Juliet, oops. :-B
    Last edited by heels1785, Mar 1, 2013
  18. Rox Administrator Emeritus

    Member Since:
    Nov 24, 2000
    star 6
    The Flacco deal was way too high in my opinion. I know he just won a Super Bowl but he's average at best.
  19. solojones Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Sep 27, 2000
    star 9
    Well I wanted to draft him, of course I can spell his name ;)
  20. LloydChristmas Jedi Grand Master

    Member Since:
    Sep 3, 2012
    star 3
    But you've been spelling it wrong all year?

    Unless that was some inside joke I'm not getting.

    I'm gonna go eat ice cream alone now.
    Last edited by LloydChristmas, Mar 3, 2013
  21. Havac Some Guy Who Moderates Lit

    Manager
    Member Since:
    Sep 29, 2005
    star 7
    No kidding. He's not even a top five quarterback. Top ten, but not top five. That's crazy money. And now everyone else is screwed over by this dumbass deal distorting the market.
  22. Juliet316 Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Apr 27, 2005
    star 7
    Flacco's regular season numbers may not be so hot, but he's been very consistant for the most part during the playoffs (he's won at least one playoff game in each of his first five years in the league. He's the only one to do so), and he delivered a Super Bowl to the team/city. Let's face it, post - season performance is often what an owner will look at when deciding how much to pay a QB (unless you're an Eagles QB. Then sky's the limit)
  23. Havac Some Guy Who Moderates Lit

    Manager
    Member Since:
    Sep 29, 2005
    star 7
    He's got a good playoff record and he's a pretty decent quarterback, but the fact is, he's getting blockbuster money when he's not even a consensus elite player at the position. The championship and free agency and scarceness of quarterback talent created a ridiculous situation where a second-tier quarterback got a record-size deal, and it's bad for the league.
    Trimaj likes this.
  24. DT421 Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Nov 6, 2003
    star 5
    If having as many post season victories in just five seasons as Peyton does for his whole career is average, then I'll take Flacco average every time. :p

    But having said that, we'll see what kind of money is left for the Ravens, because they have a laundry list of unrestricted free agents that they have to get signed and I don't think they will get half of them re-signed. The defense is going to regress and then we'll see what Flacco is really worth.
  25. The Great No One Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Jun 4, 2005
    star 8
    pretty much what havac said. and with them having so many other free agents who are going to be wanting big money for helping get a SB ring... yea, the ravens aren't going to be the same caliber team next year most likely. and flacco is sooooo not worth that much money by any imagination. no player i really. but hey, the latest QB to win the SB always gets stupid amounts of money. just kinda how it is.