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Discussion in 'Community' started by PRENNTACULAR, Nov 25, 2006.

  1. DarthTunick

    DarthTunick SfC Part IV Commissioner star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    That boo hoo was for the position/opinion you've got on this story... no **** that you're a Giants fan.

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  2. Placeholder

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    It's better branding for the NFL to have the Super Bowl winner at home. It's the smarter choice. The Thursday tradition is too new for people to be upset over, they had the wrong priority.

    In a sense, your response highlights part of the reason why. People without a rooting interest generally don't care if they play the game at home or away. They aren't going to care that it's not a Thursday game either. The only people who have a built in reason to care are the same ones they alienated with this decision.

    There may be some contractual thing with NBC that I'm not aware of that would change things.
     
  3. DarthTunick

    DarthTunick SfC Part IV Commissioner star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    At this point in the NFL's history, their cultural relevance is so great that if the Baltimore/Denver opener were held at a high school stadium in Alaska, people would still watch.
     
  4. Placeholder

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    That's true, but the NFL seems determined to test that goodwill at every turn. You have to wonder where that might backfire. Football wasn't always king, and it's not written in stone that it must remain on top. Goodell would be wise to learn that lesson.
     
  5. DarthTunick

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    When it starts to backfire, it won't be because of an issue such as this... it will be something much, much more serious.
     
  6. Juliet316

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  7. s65horsey

    s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I didn't even know that the Superbowl winner played their first game at home the following year (until people started to complain about it) so I'm completely lost on the significance of Baltimore playing away. I don't think I pay attention to whether the teams are playing at home or away.
     
  8. Placeholder

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    That's part of the point. The only group affected by the decision are the ones the NFL made angry. That just isn't smart marketing. It's a loss without a gain. Why do that?
     
  9. ma_petite

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    Just because they got angry doesnt mean the NFL is taking a loss. The champs will have plenty of fans buying merchandise and tickets will sell out at the stadium. How is this a loss for the NFL?

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  10. Placeholder

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    It's a loss of goodwill with the fans, for no gain. That's a stupid way to conduct business, any business. Every decision in life is a tradeoff, and you want to make sure the tradeoffs work in your favor.

    By itself, this is a small issue. But it's not the only example of this sort of thinking from the league.
     
  11. s65horsey

    s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If the NFL isn't going to see a monetary loss, then they don't care. Having an emotionally charged game on Thursday night for the first game of the season is worth it for the money gain over the supposed "loss of goodwill with the fans".
     
  12. Placeholder

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    That's short term thinking. Because the day may come these decisions add up to the point that it does cost them. Rule changes, PSL's, pricing the average fan out of the stadium, put enough things together and eventually you could see it.

    That's the funny thing about being at your peak, nothing stays on top forever. There is no law of physics that makes the NFL invincible.

    They already have a problem with smaller market teams and ticket sales.

    Also, there was no "money gain'. That's the point, there was no gain at all. You could have put any big market game in that time slot. Giants/Cowboys would have killed the ratings,
     
  13. s65horsey

    s65horsey Otter-loving Former EUC Mod star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Injury issues are what is going to sink the NFL, not their decision to have the Superbowl team play away for their first game of the following season.
     
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  14. Placeholder

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    They settled the concussion lawsuit today, they made a good deal for themselves
     
  15. Rox

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    For the first time I bought an authentic Steelers jersey. I always get the low priced store bought version. The way it is made and the better materials used for it are really good.
     
  16. DarthTunick

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  17. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    Interesting.
     
  18. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC/PT/New Films Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Tomorrow is the cut to 53 deadline. Some interesting names that didn't make final rosters:

    Matt Leinart (Bills), Trent Edwards (Bears), Lance Ball (Broncos), Marcus Trufant (Jaguars), Jake Ballard (Pats), Dan Carpenter (Jets- third team he's been cut from this offseason, after Fins and Cards), Max Starks (Chargers), Michael Robinson (Seahawks).

    Most cuts coming tomorrow.
     
  19. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    I thought Trent Edwards retired?

    Leinart was a goner the moment the Bills decided to go with the undrafted rookie while Manuel is healing from his knee surgery.

    ESPN is fully expecting Te'o to be cut from the Chargers tomorrow.

    Tebow's fate essentially depends on whether Gronk goes on the 6 week PUP list to start the season.
     
  20. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC/PT/New Films Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Te'o? He's not going anywhere.
     
  21. Juliet316

    Juliet316 Chosen One star 10

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    Just saying what ESPN is spouting out.
     
  22. Placeholder

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    There is no chance the Chargers cut Te'o.
     
  23. TahiriVeilaSolo69

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    Bai Bai J'Marcus Webb [face_tee_hee]
     
  24. heels1785

    heels1785 JCC/PT/New Films Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Vince Young didn't make the Packers roster. Many thought that when they cut Harrell, it meant Young was staying.

    Also, any Hard Knocks fans, the Bengals cut the Terminator John Conner. Staying with Orson Charles, who can't block worth a ****. As a converted TE, he gives Dalton another option, though.

    Edit- Tebow has been cut by New England.
     
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  25. Yoda_S

    Yoda_S Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Tim Tebow was cut by the Patriots.