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Discussion in 'Community' started by Ghost, Dec 6, 2012.

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  1. Abadacus

    Abadacus Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    < This is my shocked avatar.

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  2. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Folks, you can just right click the image, save it, and upload to imgur.
     
  3. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Libertarian Communism is an oxymoron

    Yeah, I know. Shouldn't take this quiz too seriously...
     
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  4. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Communism isn't necessarily communism as practiced by the USSR and PRC. Theoretically it means an absence of a state at the "final stage," hence "libertarian." Generally speaking anarcho-communists/etc.-ists want to skip the middle "stages."

    I hope I'm explaining this right. Don't want to fail my next purity test.
     
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  5. Abadacus

    Abadacus Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Libertarian Capitalism is an oxymoron, Libertarian Communism is a redundancy.

    The authoritarian "Dictatorship of the Proletariat" was supposed to be a transitional stage, based on theory that I and many others reject, and ultimately created / was subverted by a military/bureaucratic elite who then embraced imperialism and state capitalism.
     
  6. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Yeah, I know.
     
  7. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    Between the 1940s and 1980s, the proliferation movement had a lot of traction. Some have argued that if world powers possess nuclear weapons, that prevents war by virtue of the states' owning such terrible weapons at all. No nation has utilized them since 1945 (us against Japan, something that I think was fueled by mutual desperation and, in the USA government's case, implicit or subconscious racism). There has been a lot of fear that Trump or Kim will use weapons. I can understand the MAD argument: That if no nation possessed nukes, then warfare would again become more common for the Western world. But war is common on other continents, and that's the tragedy, especially for civilians. I'm not just talking about what's going on in Asia and Africa. But many parents in the US and other Western countries now fear for their children's well-being as along as we have dangerous leaders like Trump, Putin, Kim, and others. Typically, conservative leaders are more cause for alarm than liberal ones, though I'm sure a few so-called liberals like Tony Blair frightened people when they joined with Bush.

    In the end, I can see why relative pacifism and absolute pacifism are loved by opponents of racism, sexism, the hetero-patriarchy's hate, and the T.E.R.F.s' hate. History has made me hopeful in that pacifism is now the most popular form of protest in the US and other countries. During the late 19th century and early 20th century, more people preferred to protest with violence than now.
     
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  8. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    I'll just go ahead and explain it cause i'm already behind now on 4 JCCers in terms of Red purity. No sense in you losing points.

    Communism is the final stage, and it's a stateless classless society. The idea of people having rights, which is what the libertarian aspect is for in this 8venues quiz, is absolutely compatible with Communism.
     
  9. SuperWatto

    SuperWatto Chosen One star 7

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    Communism is the adolescent stage.
     
  10. Vaderize03

    Vaderize03 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    On another note, it appears that the NRA will now push for a federal law requiring concealed-carry permits from one state to be honored in any other state. Yay.

    Anyone still think McConnell won't gut the legislative filibuster sometime in the next four years?
     
  11. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    I giggled. So true. We all may feel a little authoritarian after a while if we want to do right when others do wrong. Gotta love these threads for their freedom of expression and thought-provoking stuff.

    Btw, does net neutrality fall under "U.S. Politics?" I'm concerned about the government making rules for the Internet and corporations now. Websites like this have reasonable censorship, and certainly, a place like this is safer than FB, Instagram, or Twitter. (Those websites can be like the Wild West for some people. Glad I've never run into any trouble on FB or Insta, but Twitter, yes. Could never deal with it. I deleted mine in 2013.) But it seems best when people make rules for themselves. The Trump administration is certainly authoritarian and, well, corporatist, evidently.
     
  12. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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  13. DarthPhilosopher

    DarthPhilosopher Chosen One star 6

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    I hear this lot from Americans, but from a Briton..

    Please hand in your passport to the nearest Ender Station.
     
  14. Ava G.

    Ava G. Force Ghost star 5

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    My thread... you see, my thread had the most replies, most pages in history. You could say that. I'd say that. See, I'm good at what I do.
     
  15. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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  16. Yoda's_Roomate

    Yoda's_Roomate Chosen One star 5

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    Well friends, after 100 days how do you feel about Mango Mussolini?

    I feel the same as in day 1: scared for humanity
     
  17. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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  18. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Yo, this isn't scary at all...


    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/04/28/trump-proclaims-may-1-as-loyalty-day.html

     
  19. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    I'm just waiting for the equivalent of Tarkin to say, "I have just received word that the Emperor...I mean, President has dissolved..."
     
  20. Adam of Nuchtern

    Adam of Nuchtern Force Ghost star 6

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    It's actually been an official holiday since 1958.
     
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  21. CT-867-5309

    CT-867-5309 Chosen One star 7

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    I don't find it the least bit scary. Trump can declare Evil Day, and we can ignore him.

    I don't think Trump can enforce obedience, or make anyone do anything they don't want to do, by declaring Loyalty Day.

    It's not so simple as declaring a day a certain thing and that thing coming into being. Declaring something does not make it so.

    Trump can call May 2 Laundry Day, that doesn't mean anyone has to do their laundry that day.
     
  22. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I'll respect our men and women of the military the same way I do any other day, by doing what I can to fight against their being sent into pre-emptive wars for money.

    Trump thinks that declaring something makes it so, which is hilarious. And sad, given that he has no idea how the structure of our government or the system of checks and balances work.
     
  23. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Yeah, it's part of this country's longstanding tradition of trying to trivialize May Day post-Haymarket. For reference, here's Obama's order from last year.

    Now you could certainly argue that it's pretty ****ed up that our government would try to make "Loyalty Day" a thing in the first place, but in the grand tapestry of uncomfortable nationalism this is just a stitch.
     
  24. DarthTunick

    DarthTunick SFTC VII + Deadpool BOFF star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    It'll never happen, but nonetheless I wish the whole 100 days benchmark would disappear from the political landscape... it's just too much arbitrary nonsense in a system full of it.



    Opinion on Trump? The same disbelief as felt on Election Night last year. Surreality is the new reality. :p This administration feels like/will go along like dog years; these 4+ months feels like it's been well over a year already.
     
  25. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    To quote Marty McFly in BTFF 3, "He's an *******!"
     
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