Senate The US Politics discussion

1. Kathy Griffin is a woman.

2. Name any othe time in American history at all that the White House officially called for firing a private citizen for criticizing the President.

 

I said white people, not white men so what's your point with #1?

 

I care about spelling when I hand in a report at work or collage, I'm sorry I don't really care and take the time to make sure all my posts in here don't have grammar or spelling errors.Your really not that important.

 

How about you answer #2 while you're at it?

 

I'm not playing your switch and bait game, how about you answer my original question, What black person has ever been fired for a political or racist comment?

 

It's just interesting that on average, spelling is very good on here, except when it's a Trump voter doing the talking.

Like, where I'm from, we also have people who can´t spell well, but they're all over the political spectrum. Not clustered on the far right.

 

I dislike bad grammar and spelling just as much as the next guy, I mean proofread right? Even so, I've spelled things wrong before, and that doesn't make my political opinions wrong.

So what, a Trump supporter comes on here and wants to debate, so you belittle them and make fun of their grammar? Come on, that's cheap.

Here's my take though. It seems like the current White House administration has selective hearing when it comes to free speech. Trump has said some wild things, and Alex Jones, and Sean Hannity.

I'm not sure if Jemele's tweets should get her fired, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did. She is foolish to post such strong opinions online. Yeah she has free speech, but her company has a reputation to defend.

 

why was Curt Schilling fired by ESPN and not her? Shouldn't a company afford freedom of speech to all employees?

 

ESPN probably doesn't want the bad press of firing a black woman for criticizing the president. They're already criticized for not having enough black women. I don't think that is the best reason, but I get it and it doesn't really enrage me. The company can do whatever it wants. It's not really an argument of free speech, it is company ethics.

 

"It's a very high bar to argue that federal funding to states will be cut by $160 billion between 2020 and 2026 (forget whether it ends in 2027 or not) and coverage will stay the same."

-Drew Altman of the Kaiser Family Foundation on the effect of proposed Medicaid block grans.

 

There's a fairly famous one.

Shirley Sherrod

She was fired thanks to a video selectively edited (aka fake news) by Andrew Breitbart that painted her as a racist.

Isaiah Washington was fired from Grey's Anatomy for calling a fellow cast mate a gay slur. CeeLo Green got cancelled because of comments about rape. Green has gotten into a lot of trouble for what he has said.

Colin Kaepernick is out of the NFL because he took a knee during the anthem.

Those were just off the top of my head.

 

I'll concede the fact that blacks can be fired for sexists or homophobic comments, but I don't think they are for political or racists comments. Kap isn't in the NFL because he sucks at QB. Black players are still kneeling and they have not been cut.

 

This is literally what you said. OR WOMEN

 

Shilling was fired for sharing a post that among other things, was offensive and insulting. It also bordered on threatening:

Jemele called Trump a white supremacist because he failed to denounce them.

Honestly, this can be supported with evidence up to and including the president's own words and actions. Her point of view is supported by fact. She also called him ignorant and unfit to be president- again this too can be factually backed up by the man's words and actions.

It would be akin to firing someone for saying the sky is blue and the grass is green. Jemele simply said what many, many others in the press have already stated. She didn't threaten him in any way. She just shared her extreme dislike of him and her honest opinion of him.

Now, if she had called for his death or violence against him, I would agree she should be fired. She did not do that. Shilling chose to share a post that included threats and implications of violence to say nothing of being offensive. You can argue what Jemele said was offensive- but again what she said was based on what Trump has said and done in full view of the world.

 

I meant black women.

 

Shirley Sherrod was specifically fired for alleged racist political comments. She's black. It happened.

Shermichael Singleton, who worked for HUD under Ben Carson, was fired for criticizing Trump.

Lisa Durden (wiki her if you want) was fired after saying this on Tucker Carlson:

 

1. What Schilling said was way worse then what Hill said even though I hate bomb throwers on both sides (which is what they are hence I don't listen/watch either of them).
2. With Schilling that was a last straw. He said a lot of stupid things in the past and simply did not listen to warnings.

As for Kapernick, he is out of the league for the same reasons Tebow is. Can only succeed in a outdated system (read option) and brings a media circus over stuff totally overblown. Doesn't help Colin's skills have really diminished. He cannot run like he used to nor throw.

 

I can think of a lot of teams whose QB situation would be immediately improved by Kapernick, including my crummy team (NY Jets). A QB is much higher profile than any other position, and that's why other players kneeling haven't been blacklisted.

 

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Kinda like conservatives and everyone who doesn’t look like or agree with them.

You know, glass houses and all...

 

Shirley Sherrod literally fits the example you are asking for. In fact, she was fired rather quickly and despite the fact that Breitbart was known to make fake video edits.

 

She has a history of offensive comments. She was disciplined by the network previously for her offensive comments equating rooting for the Celtics to cheering for Hitler:

http://deadspin.com/5017669/espn-is-giving-jemele-hill-some-quiet-time

http://deadspin.com/5016575/celtics-fans-are-no-longer-hitler-sympathizers