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Discussion in 'Community' started by Ghost, Dec 6, 2012.

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  1. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    ......OK.
     
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  2. SuperWatto

    SuperWatto Chosen One star 7

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    KWISATZ HADERACH!
     
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  3. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    Sarah Huckabee called Democrats obstructionist losers. Trump just tweeted as I typed this. Of course it's the Dems fault and of course we need more Republicans to solve it in 2018.
     
  4. Yoda's_Roomate

    Yoda's_Roomate Chosen One star 5

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    Now that the government is shut down, I bet Trump is saying to himself "So I guess I don't have to do anything until it starts up again. Time to watch some Netflix. I need to catch up on Peaky Blinders".
     
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  5. FatBurt

    FatBurt Sex Scarecrow Vanquisher star 6

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    Trump would never watch something as "cerebral" as peaky blinders



    He'll find a Duck Dynasty for policy ideas
     
  6. Nobody145

    Nobody145 Force Ghost star 5

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    Don't be ridiculous. This just means that now instead of only spending the weekend golfing now he can golf seven days a week. :p
     
  7. Maulfly

    Maulfly Moderator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Heh...he probably thinks shutting down the government would stop the investigation.
     
  8. Vaderize03

    Vaderize03 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It will if the Democrats get blamed for this and his poll numbers (and Republicans in general) improve enough to give them cover to halt the investigation.

    Remember, his numbers have been climbing this week. It remains to be seen how this will affect them. He’s at his best with his base when he has an enemy, and right now, that’s the Democratic Party writ large.
     
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  9. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    His base has thought the investigation was a giant conspiracy theory since it started, complained that Mueller is a Clinton stooge and should be fired. I don’t know that this will have an effect unless running out of money halts it.

    Which sets a pretty bad precedent. Assuming we get past this, the next corrupt-as-hell President will just have to force a government shutdown to keep himself or herself from being investigated.
     
  10. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    There is some memo floating around about how horrible and corrupt the Mueller investigation is. It was supposed to be this nail in the coffin. Turns out it was simply written up by GOP staffers after it was all over right wing news for a week.
     
  11. Vaderize03

    Vaderize03 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Not surprised.

    On another note, I’m interested to see how the markets react to the shutdown. My guess is they’ll shrug it off initially, but if goes more than a couple days, it could be a jolt to Wall Street. One thing that definitely *will* spook markets is if there’s a fight over the debt ceiling, which needs to be raised sometime next month.

    Giddyup!
     
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  12. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    The US inability to govern itself properly is already priced into the markets. I doubt they'll flicker an eyelid over this.
     
  13. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 7

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    What's going on with the stock market should be very, very concerning for everyone right now.

    Every single time that the stock market has been rising up this crazy, it's led to a major crash. Every time. And no one ever learns anything. Case in point - financial experts are fully aware of past instances. So how are they justifying continuing to invest? Why, invent a new term! Yes, this endless, never-coming-down rise of the stock market is being called a 'melt-up'. Get it? It's the opposite of a meltdown.

    Yeah, the economy is screwed. As inevitable as it is, hopefully it'll happen before the elections this year.
     
  14. Yoda's_Roomate

    Yoda's_Roomate Chosen One star 5

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    I think the Democrats should just nonstop remind people that this is GOP controlled government. Its their ship and they put a lunatic as captain. Their responsibility.
     
  15. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin (2007-2023) - She Held Us Together star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I agree. The possibility of shutdown has been known for awhile now.
     
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  16. Vaderize03

    Vaderize03 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This. It shouldn’t be their only message, but it needs to be a big one.

    EDIT: a shutdown is priced in (as long as it’s short) but not a debt showdown. You can’t really plan for that.
     
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  17. Yoda's_Roomate

    Yoda's_Roomate Chosen One star 5

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  18. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian Future Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Do not underestimate the power of Trump's supporters, or suffer Hillary's fate you will.
     
  19. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    Shutdowns have been discussed ever since the campaign.
     
  20. Kuro

    Kuro Jedi Knight star 3

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    Absolutely this. If you know anything about the markets, you know this to be true. They don’t like government shutdowns, but they’ve learned to live with them. The debt ceiling is where they really start to panic. If the United States chooses to default on its debt, I can’t tell you how much that would damage our credit score. It would tell the rest of the world never to lend money to the United States, because they will never pay you back. And that would cause the markets to freak out.

    Shutdowns are basically considered normal. Threatening not to raise the debt ceiling is considered the nuclear option.
     
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  21. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The equivalent of "Not it!".
     
  22. FatBurt

    FatBurt Sex Scarecrow Vanquisher star 6

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    A tweet for every occasion
     
  23. Yoda's_Roomate

    Yoda's_Roomate Chosen One star 5

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  24. MrZAP

    MrZAP Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I agree. **** babies, taking our resources. Life for the already living!
     
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  25. Slowpokeking

    Slowpokeking Jedi Master star 5

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    What did the first lady say about it?
     
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