The use of X-Wings

Z-95 Headhunters are barely EU - they were mentioned in the TPM novelisation, if I recall correctly. It would be cool to see them make an appearance, though, along with Y-Wings. X-Wings are reasonably new at the time of ANH though, so we won't see them.

My theory is that they won't be on the side of the Republic though, Palpatine will begin work on his TIE series of fighters. We'll most likely see the fighters we associate with the Alliance being used on the Separatist's side, as Z-95s are primarily used for planetary and system defence forces rather than as top-of-the-line fighters, of which the Republic had few until the "Grand Army of the Republic" was announced. Also, the Alliance obtained nearly all of its fighters second-hand to start with, few were built specifically for them initially. We'll most likely see the Republic using a primitive version of the TIE Fighter, and as the Republic evolves into the Empire, so too will the TIE Fighters evolve into the shape that we know them.


What I DO want to see is a Victory-Class Star Destroyer. As far as I know, they were created during the Clone Wars. So where the heck are they? It would be very cool to see a fleet of VSDs launching entire wings of TIEs at oncoming Z-95s...or better - Jedi Starfighters!

 

the Z-95 Headhunter was designed, produced and built by Incom corp & Subpro Corporation, and the T-65 X-Wing was an Incom product. Then the ****ing rebel-symp design team defected just before Incom corp was nationalized by the Empire.
So I don't believe we'll see these in III, but Headhunters could be seen. And as someone earlier mentioned, in PhantomMenace-book Anakin chatted with a Headhunter-pilot.
But they are ugly ships, I'd prefer Koensayr's Y-Wings in their original armor or proto TIEs. TIE fighters are cool. [especially in the TIE/f-game]

 

So far, the most likely existing ships (not already in PT) we'll see are:

- Prototype TIEs
- Z-95 Headhunters
- Brand spanking new Y-Wings

If Lucas is smart, he'll add one or two new types of starfighters in as well. He introduced the A-wing and B-wing in ROTJ, and IMHO that was a lot smarter than simply continuing to use X-wings and Y-wings for the whole trilogy.

 

I want to keep most OT ships in the OT, thanks

Why?

I'd like there to be something original in the Original Trilogy

 

Stinrab- Our old buddy Rick has said that there will be no Ewoks in Episode III, so you'll always have the originality of fuzzy primitive midgets should all else fail!

And "new" Y-Wings would be sweet to see in action. And early TIE designs too. Yeah.

 

I think that we'll see something reminiscent of a TIE Fighter, and perhaps some Z-95 HeadHunters, or something like that...

 

Why does everyone think twenty yrs is too long a time to have an X-wing or Tie Fighter in service. When you consider a lot of the worlds air forces still use aircraft that are design wise 30-40yrs+ most aircraft are in design and development for 10yrs then the basic design is kept in service while the electronics are updated.
Just look at F111's, F14's etc

 

No, x-wings came about only a few years beofre ANH.

Z-95s would be cool, maybe some Howlrunners

 

Where in the movies does it say the age of the X-wing?
No where! EU cannot be taken as fact.
Not to mention the X-wing and Tie fighter have already made an appearence in AOTC all be it hidden in the depths of Coruscant.
The Naboo fighters are a good indication that the same design being kept in service in the SW galaxy.
from TPM to AOTC is around the ten year mark.

 

I doubt X-wings will be shown. If the Rebllion is able to obtain them in the OT, Incom must sell them black market rather than straight to the military. The Loyalist and Separatist groups in the PT are both legitimate, so it would be a bit incongruous for either to have X-wings.

 

I've only read one EU book, Shadows of the Empire, so my knowledge of non-film is pretty much crapola. However, I have some notional discoveries. What do we know? Entire systems are slipping out of control of the Republic. We know that specific systems have their own style of craft, i.e. the Naboo N-1 Starfighter. Look at all the DIFFERENT types of robots running around on the Geonosian landscape. Those headhunter ships that many of you mentioned could be in there. I'd love to see some fresh looking Y-wings. They've been given the least amount of attention for the importance that they've had. Yes, I believe that no X-Wings will be seen, but have you any idea of the amount of metal flying around in space possible? What may happen is we'll see several unrelated craft with very familiar features. The S-foil is not a new feature since the Sith Infiltrator had collapsable wings. That itself looked like an X-Wing/TIE Fighter hybrid. Ep. I, II, V & VI have particularly elaborate ground assault sequences. Greater detail in space naval battles took place in really just IV and VI. The CG technology is available, the film can have an incredible eyespread of aerial warfare that should make an amazing statement about the future of the galaxy long ago far far away.

 

If I recall correctly, the X-Wings we see in ANH are fairly worn and beat up. The Y-Wings could be said to be equally as beat up but I have another idea. Luke, a barely trained pilot, was given an X-Wing to use. But he's also, if any of them, the least experienced pilot, at least as far as his ranking in the Rebel Fleet. Now, not that I know anything about ranking systems, I'd think the fleet would want the best ships going to the best pilots. This leads me to think the Y-Wings are the newer, if not better, of those two ships. And it also offers a good way to view the X-Wing. It's quite possible that the good ole X-Wing is the ship which made strides during the Clone Wars but, of course, newer ships have come out. To see that this legendary ship still had the heart to take down the first DS, with the right pilot, would be a little more meaningful knowing that it made an impact during the historic Clone Wars. So, we'd see it in its better days, clean, new, and outperforming the Jedi Starfighter easily. Hmm, now that I say that, maybe it will duel with the Jedi Starfighters and win. (yes, I mean the Separatists, possibly including Anakin and his Clonetroopers, or whomever is against the Jedi) Then, we'd see Luke use one to take down the DS. Nice.

Isurus

 

All EU information points to X-Wings being newer than Y-Wings, but EU is a dirty word here apparently.


The only flaw I see with that plan is the fact that they sent their crappy fighters to save the galaxy. Y-Wings are good and all, but if you've got something better than an X-Wing to escort them with, on such an important mission you'd use it. The reason they look beaten up is because they've seen a lot of action, most likely; they can't afford to replace fighters like the Empire can.

 

If EU is a dirty word, I like to talk dirty.
But this is from Star Wars Insider #59, page 54: "...As the X-Wing neared production, the Imperial Security Bureau accused many top managers and designers at Incom of being Rebel sympathizers. The shipwrights went into hiding,taking the X-Wing prototypes with them. Eventually they joined Rebellion, where they set up secret manufacturing plants to produce small production runs of X-Wings."
Dunno if this is EU for some of you, but I don't care. This looks like no T-65's in Star Wars III. Right?

 

We are not going to see any X-Wings, or any other Rebel Alliance ship.

The republic which Palpatine is leading in Aotc, sooner becomes the Empire, and the Empire do not have any X-Wings to they. No the Rebel Alliance is an Alliance which is started after the Empire is grounded, beacuse they do not like the Empire.

 

Sorry bud but you ain't going to see x-wings in Episode III. Possibly Tie fighter prototypes but that is it!

"Side! I am on nobody's side because nobody is on my side!"

 

you ain't going to see x-wings in Episode III

(Despite the fact that you see them in AOTC )

 

Hahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Do you mean the ONE X-wing you see for 1/2 a second in the asteroid chase and only then if you pause the film.

Mmmmmmm that would justify seeing them in Episode III....NOT!

Sorry dude just feeling flippant today!

"There's something about putting a footprint on the Moon."

 

"Do you mean the ONE X-wing you see for 1/2 a second in the asteroid chase and only then if you pause the film."

Actually, it's on Coruscant, but it is onyl for 1 second. Is there one in the asteroids also? I haven't found the cow-creature yet.

Mmmmmmm that would justify seeing them in Episode III....NOT!

I thought my smiley face made the joke clear.

 

Indeed it did my friend but flippancy is a funny ole' thing!

I never knew there was an X-wing on Coruscant, where is it?

If you pause the film in the asteroid chase you will see an X-wing and a Tie fighter near the bottom of the screen. You will have to go through it frame by frame to find them.

Personally I wouldn't bother.

"If it bleeds, we can kill it!"

 

In Coruscant, when Obi and Ani are chasing the bounty hunter.

The hunter drops straight down. At one point (this scene or the next, there's a small bridge in the bottom left corner, with a bus on it. Squeezed further into this corner, a tiny,tiny x-wing is being chased by 3 ties. The ties are more visible, but just barely.

Good luck, and may the Force be with you

BTW, no hard feelings

[Force-choke]

 

I'm sure there will be X-wings in Episode III, except they'll be barely noticable, like in AOTC. They may appear briefly once or twice. But having a Tie would be awesome. I love the Empire, I feel that they are much more powerful than the Republic and/or Rebels. The only reason they lost was because Darth Vader turned good in the end, if Luke wasn't his son, he would've let Darth Sidious finish him off, and the Empire would still rule! I would also like to see Y-wings find their way into Episode III. I like having the movies blend together. If there are no ships from Episode IV in Episode III, when the collection set comes out, between Episode III and Episode IV, it would just feel different, like two different movie plots made by two different directors at different times, when watched right after each other seam to fit together, barely. I just have to have a few ships and or characters from Episode IV in Episode III. Characters such as Jabba the Hut, Darth Vaders Generals and stuff like that from the Death Star, They could just be ordinary extras for all I care, they don't even need speaking lines. Just some way to compare the two Episodes. We could also have a little hint of the T-16* in Episode III. We could also have death of Anakins step father. Leaving Owen and Beru with control over the moisture farm. Who later recieve custody of Luke. Also we could have a minor hint of the Tie Interceptor at the very end of Episode III. Is Tie Interceptor in Episode IV? I can't remember. We may even have the Tie's
all designed like Vader's personnal fighter, except they become modified to be smaller and lighter, but vader keeps the original design as a show of importance. Also we could have a sort of mixture between the Jedi Starfighter and the A-wing, even though the are already closely related. Mabye even have an A-wing or two show up in Episode III. Nah, I take that back, we can keep the A-wing as a surprise. I just hope that some of the stuff I said, ends up in Episode III, it would really make my day.

*The T-16 is the tri-winged flyer used by Luke, Wedge, etc. in Begger's Canyon.

 

Inter-Galactic
"they'll be barely noticable, like in AOTC."
They're barely noticeable, because they're not supposed to be there. It's an inside joke. What little you can see is barely enough to make them out, even if you know where to look. There's a reason why this is so.

"Mabye even have an A-wing"
I can't help but notice how much the Jedi starfighter is a cross between a star destroyer and an A-wing (my favorite ship, BTW)

Corellian YT-1300s are standard commercial carriers, of which the Millenium Falcon is one of many. You don't see any fighter craft because the Republic doesn't have an army until the end of AOTC. The only craft in the SW database old enough to be around during the Clone Wars is the Y-wing, and that's the only instantly recognizable ship you will see in Ep.III, if at all. Hell, even the "Star Destoyer" troop carriers in AOTC have only a passing similarity to those in the OT.

"We could also have a little hint of the T-16 in Episode III"
Doubtful, since it's an atmospheric-only training ship. How many Cessnas do you see flying alongside F-117's around Kuwait? The T-16 can't even enter space.

Still, one can dream...

 

Mabye even have an A-wing

I don't think that can happen. A-wings are supposed to be newer than X-wings, so even if the X-wing is developed between AotC and E3, the A-wing probably won't have been. Also, if memory serves me, the A-wings were the fastest fighters used at the Battle of Endor, outstripping even TIE Interceptors. The TIE Interceptors were state-of-the-art models developed by Sienar based on the prototype X1 Vader flew at Yavin, so I don't think they would have been made slower than a class of fighter that had already existed and been known to have been used by the Rebels/Separatists for a long time.