The Video Game Draft Version 2.0 Beta

Discussion in 'Games' started by DarthIntegral, Jul 26, 2006.

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  1. DarthIntegral Force Ghost

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    Chrono Trigger

    Ayla
    Dalton
    Flea
    Frog
    Lucca
    Marle
    Ozzie
    Robo
    Slash

    Final Fantasy

    Terra Branford (VI)
    Locke Cole (VI)
    Edgar Roni Figaro (VI)
    Sabin Rene Figaro (VI)
    Celes Chere (VI)
    Setzer Gabbiani (VI)
    Shadow (VI)
    Cyan Garamonde (VI)
    Mog (VI)
    Gogo (VI)
    Relm Arrowny (VI)
    Strago Magus (VI)
    Umaro (VI)
    Ultros (VI)
    Barret Wallace (VII)
    Tifa Lockheart (VII)
    Aerith Gainsborough (VII)
    Red XIII (VII)
    Yuffie Kisaragi (VII)
    Cid Highwind (VII)
    Zack (VII)
    Rinoa Heartilly (VIII)
    Quistis Trepe (VIII)
    Zell Dincht (VIII)
    Irvine Kinneas (VIII)
    Selphie Tilmitt (VIII)
    Seifer Almasy (VIII)
    Laguna Loire (VIII)
    Fujin (VIII)
    Raijin (VIII)
    Kiros Seagill (VIII)
    Vivi Ornitier (IX)
    Adelbert Steiner (IX)
    Freya Crescent (IX)
    Amarant Coral (IX)
    Eiko Carrol (IX)
    Wakka (X)
    Kimahri Ronso (X)
    Lulu (X)
    Rikku (X)
    Ashe (XII)
    Balthier (XII)
    Basch fon Ronsenberg (XII)
    Fran (XII)
    Penelo (XII)
    Vaan (XII)
    Marche (Tactics Advance)
    MontBlanc (Tactics Advance)

    Guilty Gear

    Axl Low
    Chipp Zanuff
    Dizzy
    Ky Kiske
    Millia Rage
    Potemkin
    Slayer
    Sol Badguy
    Testament

    Killer Instinct

    Cinder
    Eyedol
    Fulgore
    Glacius
    Jago
    Riptor
    Sabrewulf
    Spinal

    Metal Gear

    Big Boss
    Colonel Volgin
    Liquid Snake
    Psycho Mantis
    Raiden
    Revolver Ocelot
    Solid Snake
    Solidus Snake
    The Boss
    Vulcan Raven

    Mortal Kombat

    Blaze
    Cyrax
    Ermac
    Goro
    Johnny Cage
    Kano
    Kenshi
    Kintaro
    Kitana
    Kung Lao
    Liu Kang
    Mileena
    Motaro
    Noob Saibot
    Quan Chi
    Reptile
    Scorpion
    Shang Tsung
    Shao Kahn
    Sheeva
    Smoke
    Sub-Zero

    Resident Evil

    Ada Wong
    Albert Wesker
    Alexia Ashford
    Billy Coen
    Bitores Mendez
    Chris Redfield
    Jack Krauser
    Jill Valentine
    Leon S. Kennedy
    Mr. X
    Nemesis
    Osmund Saddler
    Tyrant

    Street Fighter

    Akuma
    Chun-Li
    Gill
    Guile
    Ken Masters
    M. Bison
    Ryu
    Sagat
    Vega

    Soul Caliber

    Abyss
    Astaroth
    Cervantes de Leon
    Edge Master
    Heishiro Mitsurugi
    Inferno
    Kilik
    Nightmare
    Siegfried Schtauffen
    Yoshimitsu
    Zasalamel

    Suikoden Series

    Jowy Atreides (II)
    Clive (I & II)
    Ferid Egan (V)
    Flik (I & II)
    Frey Falenas (V)
    Futch (I, II & III)
    Geddoe (III)
    Hugo (III)
    Jeane (I, II, III, IV & V)
    Chris Lightfellow (III)
    Lyon (V)
    Luc (I, II & III)
    Mazus (II)
    Pesmerga (I & II)
    Georg Prime (II & V)
    Richard (V)
    Riou (II)
    Sasarai (II & III)
    Viktor (I & II)
    Yuber (I, II & III)
    Zerase (V)

    Tekken

    Jin Kazma
    Jinpachi Mishima
    Jun Kazama
    Kazuya Mishima
    Marshall Law
    Nina Williams
    Paul Phoenix
    True Ogre

    Xenogears/Xenosaga

    Bartholomew Fatimi (Xenogears)
    Billy Lee Black (Xenogears)
    Citan Uzuki (Xenogears)
    Dominia (Xenogears)
    Elly Van Houten (Xenogears)
    Emeralda Kasim (Xenogears)
    Kahran Ramsus (Xenogears)
    Kelvena (Xenogears)
    Seraphita (Xenogears)
    Tolone (Xenogears)
    Jin Uzuki (Xenosaga)
    Jr. (Xenosaga)
    Margulis (Xenosaga)
    MOMO (Xenosaga)
    Shion Uzuki (Xenosaga)
    Ziggy (Xenosaga)

    OTHER

    James Bond (007 series)
    Dark Link (Adventure of Link)
    Pimple (Battletoads)
    Rash (Battletoads)
    Zitz (Battletoads)
    Rayne (BloodRayne)
    Richter Belmont (Castlevania)
    Simon Belmont (Castlevania)
    Sypha Belnades (Castlevania)
    Trevor Belmont (Castlevania)
    Kid (Chrono Cross)
    Lynx (Chrono Cross)
    Serge (Chrono Cross)
    Lance Bean (Contra)
    Bill Rizer (Contra: Shattered Soldier)
    Lucia (Contra: Shattered Soldier)
    Crash Bandicoot (Crash Bandicoot)
    Crypto (Destroy All Humans)
    JC Denton (Deus Ex)
    Lady (Devil May Cry)
    Nevan (Devil May Cry)
    Trish (Devil May Cry)
    The Phantom (Devil May Cry)
    Donky Kong (Donkey Kong/Mario)
    Abobo (Double Dragon)
    Billy Lee (Double Dragon)
    Jimmy Lee (Double Dragon)
    Earthworm Jim (Earthworm Jim)
    Evil Jim (Earthworm Jim)
    Jack Carver (Far Cry)
    Cody (Final Fight)
    Guy (Final Fight)
    Haggar (Final Fight)
    Giffca (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance)
    King Kilvas (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance)
    Mist (Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance)
    Oscar (Fire Emblem: Path of Radi
  2. Zizz Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Dec 29, 2005
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    Some of the guys who did really well last time might have a chance, although I couldn't really see them on it.

    Seifer Almasy
    Shadow
    Sol Badguy (just the name)
    Megaman
    Jubei
    The Prince (wasn't he there last time?)

    Not sure who else, but those are some possibilities.
  3. EmpireForever Chosen One

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    Doesn't Ryu project enough chi to comletely level a multi story building? He's pretty much the best hand to hand out there, and just because he's not in an RPG doesn't mean his chi attacks aren't something to be reckoned with. There are characters on the PL who can't cause that much destruction. Or maybe Akuma, since he's better than Ryu. What about the Queen from Tactics? What about that chick from NIN or whatever it is? I haven't played it, so I don't know if it's any good, but for draft purposes a couple of the characters from Godhand might be good adds. What about some Dragon Quest people? Just throwin some stuff out there.
  4. Evil_King_Wiggins Force Ghost

    Member Since:
    Aug 18, 2003
    star 6
    We should put Mewtwo on the powerlist, ;)

    We could also add some other Pokemon. [face_mischief]

    EDIT:

    Actually, We should put Ash on the powerlist! :p

    Evil.
  5. dp4m Chosen One

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    Nov 8, 2001
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    Er, which Ryu are we on now?

    'cause I don't recall Street Fighter Ryu being able to do that in the games...
  6. Evil_King_Wiggins Force Ghost

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    He's talking about the one from Ninja Gaiden, Ryu Hiyuwhatever. ;)

    Evil.
  7. EmpireForever Chosen One

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    Mar 15, 2004
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    No, I meant Street Fighter. I know it doesn't show him do it in the games, but it doesn't show that he can't do it. B level stuff doesn't mean you just completely disregard it because it has no mention at all in the games.
  8. dp4m Chosen One

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    Nov 8, 2001
    star 9
    You guys did that with Jafar ALL THE TIME. :p
  9. Master_Kast7 Jedi Grand Master

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    May 12, 2004
    star 6
    You actually forgot to put Lady on the PL. Since Shurron thinks Lady can take Lucia and all. I haven't played DMC3 yet. :(



    ~Liar, lawyer, Mirror for ya, What's the difference? Kangaroo be stoned, He's guilty as the government~
  10. EmpireForever Chosen One

    Member Since:
    Mar 15, 2004
    star 8
    No, Jafar actually had A level stuff that contradicted his B level stuff. Like being stunned by a shot to the gut. lamezors.
  11. dp4m Chosen One

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    Nov 8, 2001
    star 9
    Being sucker punched doesn't eliminate nigh-ultimate powerzzzz!@1!!1! :p
  12. Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Grand Master

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    star 6
    You actually forgot to put Lady on the PL. Since Shurron thinks Lady can take Lucia and all. I haven't played DMC3 yet. :(

    I don't think either of them should be on there. Not a fan of several of the new additions, actually, like taking the ability to prep away from Ratchet seems pretty lame to me, and probably isn't going to be such a great move in the long run. We'll see, I guess.

    I'm thinking guys like Badguy, Jubei and Seifer belong on there over a couple we have now. Any one of them would own Lucia, for example. ;)

    But as for one more addition: Well, uh, since we have a couple Final Fantasy Tactics Advance characters on the RL, and that game is good, but pure crap compared to the original, let's put a FFT character on the list. How about Cidolfas Orlandu for the PL? T.G. Cid, baby! The Thunder God!

    EDIT: Akuma is a possibility, maybe. Maybe. But I like leaving some good options for the RL, I guess.

    As far as I'm concerned, we can go with this PL for this draft, that's fine. But after it's over, we're probably going to have to sit back and reevaluate what constitutes a real PL pick. A lesson learned the hard way is a lesson learned best. A fortune cookie told me that.
  13. The_Chim Force Ghost

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    Jul 16, 2001
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    Zizz, I am gonna have to go ahead and disagree with all of those, except maybe Jubei, and its only because I don't know him too well.

    Most of those guys (Shadow, MM, etc...) definitely need prep to do as well as they did. And Seifer either got super screwed on the judging of his power level or got super screwed on the numbers. So yeah....
  14. KiwiRogue Jedi Master

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    Jun 4, 2005
    star 4
    Isn't Jubei Yagyu more or less on the same level as Samonosuke? I've only played 1 and 2, though, so I don't know if 3 hyped Samonosuke's power level that much higher.

    And FFT is another game I wish it had shown its face here. :(

    IMO, PL characters are those that, without trumping or prep, can take out a majority of the RLers with the same condition, and can also hang with most of the other PLers without getting smashed OTKed.
  15. Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Grand Master

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    Nah, not really. They're both good, but Sammy's clearly better. He and Jubei get their powers from different sources, and yeah, Jubei beat Nobunaga, but not at his peak. The Naganooch in part 3 is much more powerful and owns Sammy at the beginning of the game. It's only after Sammy get's more power, more experience and absorbs a whole second gauntlet that he can put him down for good.

    But Jubei really could still be a lower-level PL pick.
  16. The_Chim Force Ghost

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    Jul 16, 2001
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    OTKed huh? Out-Total-Knocked? :confused:


    I just think that if you put people who are boarderline, on the PL, then they won't get played. Then I feel bad for them.
  17. KiwiRogue Jedi Master

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    Jun 4, 2005
    star 4
    One-Turn-Kill. Basically obliterating the opponent in just one shot.
  18. Master_Kast7 Jedi Grand Master

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    May 12, 2004
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    Well then let's take off Lucia and put Sol Badguy, Seifer and Jubei on it. They'd make good picks for PLers I think. Shadow and MegaMan need prep, IMO. Kinda like Ratchet.



    ~Liar, lawyer, Mirror for ya, What's the difference? Kangaroo be stoned, He's guilty as the government~
  19. Zizz Jedi Master

    Member Since:
    Dec 29, 2005
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    I actually don't really like the addition of an extra PLer. Seems like it's taking away a lot of options, for preps and whatnot, for a few of the characters that are being forced on there (against their WILL! :eek:).

    The 3 preps is a great idea, and the expansion from 10 to 12 is another good one, but I just like the original list (with a few of the newer additions - and no one bumped to the PL) a lot better. Just my opinion though.
  20. EmpireForever Chosen One

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    I say we cut the PL down to 32 and everyone only gets two, because there really are only a slim amount of people who actually blow everyone else out of the water. Plus some of those PLers, like Ike(Fire Emblem), are not really all that super great. nawamsain?


    Screw the PL, if someone can manage to snag twelve people that absolutely own everyone else then they deserve them.
  21. Zizz Jedi Master

    Member Since:
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    Like Durron's team in the first draft. I didn't read the whole thing, but didn't he have...

    Seph
    Ares
    Grahf
    Solid Snake

    Can't remember the others, but that top three is ridiculous.

    And I don't know if your post was sarcasm, but I actually like that idea. Way too much seperation between the top tiered PLers and the bottom feeders. Plus it would reward good drafting more with a smaller PL. Although the teams would probably be less even.
  22. Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Grand Master

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    Ares, Sephiroth, Grahf, Vergil, Dark Samus and Mother Brain were my big guns. And I had Big Boss, not Solid.

    EDIT: And yeah, I could deal with that. The reducing of the PL seems like a smarter move to me, actually. But we can't make it an even 32, though. Gotta leave people some flexibility in their choices, ya know. 38 or so sounds about right. Maybe an even 40 or so.
  23. The_Chim Force Ghost

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    Yeah, well if we only use two PLers then that means that there will be a whole lot more RLers needed to fill the spots. The RL draftees from last draft were horrible, imagine having to choose even more from that list. The list was pretty well picked over from last time and it was rough, at least I thought that was the general census.
  24. KiwiRogue Jedi Master

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    Hmm, that would make your fighting team 1/5 PLs, 1/3 Preps and 1/2 Regulars. If you have 2 PLs, 3 Preps, 1 trump-pair, and 3 normal fighters... does that seem balanced? Or is 3 PLs better? I'd rather go with 3 PLs and shave about 20 off the list than 2 PLs and shave 35.
  25. Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Grand Master

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    Uh... what? Well, first off, cutting certain picks from the PL would just basically transfer them to the RL. And they didn't suck. It just so happened that their weren't very many RL picks that consistantly had good draws throughout the draft. That's all. You can't expect every character to have sterling records.

    EDIT: Problem with keeping it at three PL picks per team is that, if we keep the lower-level of the PL the same as it was the last draft, a very strong case could be made for a lot of these new additions to be able to hang with and/or beat a whole lot of the lesser PL picks. And then the question becomes: well why aren't they on there? Well, we're seeing why. It's too crowded now, and some of the new PL picks are pretty dubious.

    And I don't want the idea to be that we shouldn't keep adding more picks to draft in general, so really, the solution to be to make the PL for the absolute cream of the crop. Let's face it. Some of the current PL picks woul be completely obliterated by guys like Dante or Sephiroth in a matter of seconds. That doesn't exactly look like PL-worthiness to me.

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