now this is real funny (not really): Obi wan>Greivous Greivous=Dooku (taught by) Dooku<Obiwan Obi wan>anakin Anakin>everyone (supposedly) Yoda=palpatine (like a tie) and yet ppl still base it on Nick Gillards "level 9" and "level 8" thing. It also matters about the environment and your mental strength. Anakin's downfall was not because he was weak, he was arrogant. So just forget wut Gillard said, anything can happen in lightsaber duels. Sorry, this is being discussed in various other threads.