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Oceania There should be NO Dual Citizenship

Discussion in 'Oceania Discussion Boards' started by The Gatherer, Jul 21, 2003.

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  1. MarvinTheMartian Jedi Grand Master

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    answer this question Nyder: Would you prefer to live in Afghanistan, which is a country without effective government and is very much anarchic, or a liberal democracy, where people dont arbitrarily get their hands cut off for owing money or have their cars blown up for practicing the wrong religion?
  2. Detonating-Rabbit Jedi Grand Master

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    Goodbye Gatherer, hello Nyder...well, we all need someone on the boards to disagree with. :D
  3. Nyder Jedi Master

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    answer this question Nyder: Would you prefer to live in Afghanistan, which is a country without effective government and is very much anarchic, or a liberal democracy, where people dont arbitrarily get their hands cut off for owing money or have their cars blown up for practicing the wrong religion?

    When faced with the lesser of two evils.... choose neither!!
  4. MarvinTheMartian Jedi Grand Master

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    I dont understand you Nyder. There is no rational basis behind your beliefs. You do not make any sense - ever!
  5. Detonating-Rabbit Jedi Grand Master

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    I will concur with the person above me. :D
  6. MarvinTheMartian Jedi Grand Master

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    Well, hes like Gatherer, but with a separate ideology, but of a similarly nonsense nature!
  7. Nyder Jedi Master

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  8. MarvinTheMartian Jedi Grand Master

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    I don't see much of a difference between tribal warlord's rule and taking 'protection money' versus democratically elected governments ruling your life and taking 'taxes'.

    That is an example of a statement which amounts to nonsense. In fact, it makes so little sense, that I see no point in arguing against it myself, for the sole reason that I have 3 hours before my next class, have nothing to do, but would rather not spend that time trying to prove the sky is blue. Most of your statements and views are like that - they are generalised, unsubstantiated, and so far away from mainstream that it makes most free-market liberals look like hard-core socialists. In fact, you are not different from a socialist, in the sense that your ideas are unworkable, are based on a worldview and assumptions about human nature that is flawed, and can only exist on paper.

    That is all I have to say.

    Have a nice day :)
  9. Detonating-Rabbit Jedi Grand Master

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    I like your responses, Marv. They're sarcastic, if perhaps a little bitter and cynical, straight to the point. And, not only that, but they're economical with the time. :D
  10. MarvinTheMartian Jedi Grand Master

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    Thanks Deto :)

    Nyder, I dont mean any disrespect by what I said - but I am right, there is no way you can disagree with that surely
  11. Nyder Jedi Master

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    Jun 27, 2002
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    Marvin,

    Contradictions don't exist in reality. Truth is truth. A chair is a chair and will always act like a chair.

    Theft is theft. It doesn't matter how you rationalise it, it is theft. Theft means stealing other people's property. When it is backed up by violence and/or intimidation it is called robbery.

    It doesn't matter who commits the theft. It could be the fundamentalist Taliban, the Liberal government, the Nazis, ancient warlords, a poor man stealing to feed his family or the Queen of England. IT IS CALLED THEFT!

    Theft = theft.

    The only thing is, some thieves are worse then others. But that still doesn't make the theives right, and me wrong.

  12. HawkNC Former RSA: Oceania

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    Oct 23, 2001
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    What, exactly, are the governments stealing?
  13. Detonating-Rabbit Jedi Grand Master

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    Nyder's virginity... ;)

    *Cough, cough...*

    Truth is truth. A chair is a chair and will always act like a chair.

    Oh please. Who's exactly to say what the truth is, huh? And a chair is not a chair (and further more it is an inanimate object, so therefore cannot "act" like a chair...unless it was a Disney production, in which case...)...
    A chair is only a chair because it is culturally constructed to be a chair. You only know it was a chair because you have been brought up to believe it is a chair...
    I learned this, and other fascinating things like this at Macquarie Uni... [face_plain]

    In short to what you have posted:
    Yeah, right.
    :p
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