Lit Third Essential Guide to Characters (formerly "Who would you want to see . . . ?")

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  1. Xoxaan11594 Jedi Knight

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    Dan, if Chris Trevas draws it, I'll buy it anyday. [face_money_eyes]
  2. jasonfry VIP

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    Extensive biographies of those two unnamed hyperspace scouts from the Atlas.

    /apologizes, shows self out
  3. Cull_Tremayne Force Ghost

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    Thought it'd be interesting to pinpoint the transition from the original EGtC to the new one.

    Old Version

    1. Admiral Ackbar - Stayed
    2. Wedge Antilles - Stayed
    3. Bodo Baas - Gone
    4. Ponda Baba / Dr. Evazan - Gone
    5. Barada - Gone
    6. Bollux / Blue Max - Gone
    7. Bossk - Stayed
    8. C-3PO / R2-D2 - Stayed (2)
    9. Callista - Stayed
    10. Lando Calrissian - Stayed
    11. Gaeriel Captison - Stayed
    12. Joruus C'baoth - Relegated
    13. Chewbacca - Stayed
    14. Queen Mother Ta'a Chume - Gone
    15. Salacious Crumb - Gone
    16. Admiral Daala - Stayed
    17. Figrin D'an (and his band) - Gone
    18. Biggs Darklighter - Gone
    19. Dengar - Stayed
    20. Teneniel Djo - Gone
    21. General Jan Dodonna - Stayed
    22. Moruth Doole - Gone
    23. Dorsk 81 - Gone
    24. Kyp Durron - Stayed
    25. Emperor's Royal Guards - Gone
    26. Davin Felth - Gone
    27. Boba Fett - Stayed
    28. Borsk Fey'lya - Stayed
    29. Bib Fortuna - Stayed
    30. 4-LOM - Stayed
    31. Gallandro - Gone
    32. Yarna D'al' Gargan - Gone
    33. Garindan - Gone
    34. Gartogg - Gone
    35. Gethzerion - Gone
    36. Greedo - Stayed
    37. Hethrir - Gone
    38. Garm Bel Iblis - Gone
    39. IG-88 - Stayed
    40. Roganda Ismaren / Irek Ismaren - Gone
    41. Prince Isolder - Stayed
    42. Jabba the Hutt (Jabba Desilijic Tiure) - Stayed
    43. Mara Jade - Stayed
    44. Dannik Jerriko - Gone
    45. Tenel Ka - Relegated
    46. Kabe - Gone
    47. Muftak - Gone
    48. Talon Karrde - Stayed
    49. Ken - Gone
    50. Obi-Wan Kenobi - Stayed
    51. Khabarakh - Gone
    52. Princess Kneesaa - Gone
    53. Exar Kun - Stayed
    54. Labria - Gone
    55. Owen Lars / Beru Lars - Stayed
    56. Lobot - Stayed
    57. Lowbacca - Gone
    58. General Crix Madine - Stayed
    59. Nichos Marr - Gone
    60. Ephant Mon - Gone
    61. Mon Mothma - Stayed
    62. Momaw Nadon - Gone
    63. Shug Nin
  4. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    My (semi-biased) wishlist:

    -Alema Rar (significant villain through two series)
    -Cal Omas (surprise!)
    -Corla Metonae (I'm shameless!)
    -Cronal/Blackhole (Mindor alone warrants it- and you can piggy back characters like Fenn in who might not get their own entry otherwise)
    -Daala (fairly obvious)
    -Darth Krayt (obvious)
    -Darth Wyyrlok (don't make me change banners to prove why)
    -Jaden Korr (Crosscurrent seemingly being a staple for a bit)
    -K'Kruhk (Dark Times, Legacy and did I mention I'm shameless?)
    -Kar Vastor (again, Mindor)
    -Lomi Plo (major villain for a trilogy of books, influential in events that led to Caedus)
    -Mirta Gev (how can we not have an entry for a new Fett?)
    -Nym (any ROTS-involvement of his, if it exists [which, given his past exploits, is quite likely] plus possible connection to Corla/Droids/escape pod fiasco. Because I'm, well, you know.)
    -Rain/Zannah (somewhat obvious, IMO)
    -Raynar Thul (a central figure of Dark nest events, as well as seemingly some role to play in FOTJ)
    -Tahiri (be nice to see what modern day Tahiri looks like, post-Flow Walk junkie stage)
    -Vongerella (she's gotta get a name sometime, and her connection to Kyle, Jaden and either Lumiya or The One Sith, as well as the Vong/Force issue, would make her relevant to other characters and events in the book you'd have to cover)



    The story-style entries of the EGTTF was a pleasant surprise and made it a very engaging read. However, for a character guide, it would seem biographical entries would be ideal to at least some degree. You did a good job sneaking in 2 paragraphs of new info for the NEGTD, but for characters I think there needs to be more of it (but then you'd probably have more page room since character pics wouldn't take up an entire page).

    I think a balance would be absolutely fantastic- have the biographic entry, then insert either a story about them or in-universe recorded anecdote about them (be it holocron or hologram or mission debriefings, etc) to close up the entry in a way that might further elaborate on the character, their history or highlight a point made in the biographical entry.

    But there needs to be a significant amount of new information to make it a must-buy, and having some original story material like that really adds something unwookieeableto the value.

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  5. CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus

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    Poor guy's gonna have to redo that first one once Knight Errant starts up.
  6. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    Well, that'll be what Celebration VI will be for ;)
  7. Jeff_Ferguson Force Ghost

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    Alema. A hundred times Alema.

    [image=http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20090610203603/starwars/images/1/1f/Alema_Rarheadshot.jpg]

    Such an important character in NJO, Dark Nest, and LOTF. A principal antagonist in the post-NJO world.
  8. Robimus Force Ghost

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    This seems like such a grand endeavor at this point, but I'll try my best to make suggestions.

    I'd personally like an Essential Guide to EU characters, but since I suspect it will be a difficult sell without Obi, Luke and the gang I'll drop that idea right now.

    1. Admiral Ackbar
    2. Padmé Naberrie Amidala
    3. Nom Anor
    4. Wedge Antilles
    5. Darth Bane
    6. Jar Jar Binks
    7. Bossk
    8. Brakiss
    9. Shira Brie(Lumiya)
    10. C-3PO
    11. Callista
    12. Lando Calrissian
    13. Gaeriel Captison
    14. Tycho Celchu
    15. Chewbacca
    16. Admiral Daala
    17. Jori and Gav Daragon
    18. Gavin Darklighter
    19. Dengar
    20. General Jan Dodonna
    21. Count Dooku
    22. Droma
    23. Durga the Hutt
    24. Kyp Durron
    25. 4-LOM
    26. Baron Fel
    27. Boba Fett
    28. Jango Fett
    29. Borsk Fey'lya
    30. Bib Fortuna
    31. Rokur Gepta
    32. Greedo
    33. Nute Gunray
    34. Corran Horn
    35. IG-88
    36. Ysanne Isard
    37. Prince Isolder
    38. Jabba the Hutt
    39. Jedi Council Members
    40. Jedi from the Battle of Geonosis
    41. Jerec
    42. Qui-Gon Jinn
    43. Kir Kanos
    44. Talon Karrde
    45. Kyle Katarn
    46. Obi-Wan Kenobi
    47. Kueller
    48. Exar Kun
    49. Warmaster Tsavong Lah
    50. Owen Lars and Beru Whitesun Lars
    51. Bevel Lemelisk
    52. Lobot
    53. Garik "Face" Loran
    54. General Crix Madine
    55. Darth Maul
    56. Mon Mothma
    57. Boss Nass
    58. Nien Nunb
    59. Nym
    60. Ric Olié
    61. Emperor Palpatine
    62. Captain Panaka(Branch into his role as a Moff maybe[face_batting] )
    63. Admiral Gilad Pellaeon
    64. Sate Pestage
    65. Admiral Firmus Piett
    66. Podracer Pilots
    67. Ulic Qel-Droma
    68. R2-D2
    69. Dash Rendar
    70. Naga Sadow
    71. Thrackan Sal-Solo
    72. Sebulba
    73. Executor Sedriss
    74. Senator Viqi Shesh
    75. Darth Sidious(This should likely be one with Palpatine/Emperor)
    76. Raith Sienar
    77. Aurra Sing
    78. Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader
    79. Luke Skywalker
    80. Mara Jade Skywalker
    81. Anakin Solo
    82. Han Solo
    83. Jacen Solo
    84. Jaina Solo
    85. Leia Organa Solo
    86. Kam Solusar
    87. Nil Spaar
    88. Grand Moff Wilhuff Tarkin
    89. Booster Terrik
    90. Bria Tharen
    91. Grand Admiral Thrawn
    92. Supreme Chancellor Finis Valorum
    93. General Maximilian Veers
    94. Vergere
    95. Quinlan Vos
    96. Watto
    97. Zam Wesell
    98. Mace Windu
    99. Prince Xizor
    100. Yoda
    101. Warlord Zsinj
    102. Zuckuss

    So I've bolded what I don't think can be done without. Now here's who I'd add:

    Cade Skywalker
    Hett/Krayt
    Jag Fel
    Roan Fel
    Gar Stazi

    Alema Rar
    Tahiri
    Vitor Reige
    Drikl Lecersen
    Arien Yage

    Kal Skirata
    Walon Vau
    Fenn Shysa

    Dass Jennir
    Bomo Greenbark
    K'Kruhk

    Ahsoka Tano(Seriously, you can't do the book without her)
    Cad Bane
    Admiral Yularen

    Jaden Korr
    Scout

    I dunno, there's so many more I'm sure.:)

  9. Jeff_Ferguson Force Ghost

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    Yeah, definitely Tahiri.

    [image=http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070305002957/starwars/images/4/4f/TahiriCon.jpg]

    Remember how much promise her character held after the NJO? Longful sigh...

    As a pretty significant Force-based organization in the Legacy Era, the Imperial Knights have gotta get some love. I imagine that Roan Fel is probably a given, but as he's been chilling on Bastion for most of the series, an entry on Antares Draco would be indicative of all the ass that the IK's routinely kick.

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  10. The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth

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    maybe it's too obvious, or maybe she's just been around so long that she feels like she coulda been part of the last character guide, but as far as I can tell, no one has mentioned her yet: Asajj Ventress.

    Seriously, she was created within a year or so of the NEGTC's publication, so basically her entire story has yet to be included in any form in an Essential Character Guide. Comics, novels, 2D animation, 3D animation- there's a lot of ground to cover there, up to and inluding her post-Obsession status (even if it would be a difficult minefield given TCW's continuity haziness).


    As far as TCW goes, I'd predict Embo might be worthy of an entry by time this could be published, given how he was saved from death out of popularity, has proven pretty popular amongst fans and is likely to show up again in the future.


    As far as group entries go, I'd also like to suggest some group entries for Clonetroopers/Stormtroopers. Have one entry touching on key troopers from TCW. Have a group entries for Delta Squad, Omega Squad, NULL ARCs, ARC Troopers, Clone Commanders, then troopers from each of the 5 movies they appear in (so, AOTC troopers, ROTS troopers, ANH troopers, etc- mine those Decipher cards!), etc. Maybe a group entry notable EU troopers like Davin, Legacy 501st, etc (characters that otherwise wouldn't be worthy of even a supplemntal entry). Might help mentally tracking them a lot easier, which can be pretty tricky (at least for me).
  11. Havac Former Moderator

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    I think the key to getting a good mix of characters is to treat it as the New Essential Guide to Characters, Volume Two. So people who haven't had anything new added to their story, or not much new, don't need to be revisited. Whether it be Durga or Sebulba or Jerec or Ysanne Isard or even, if the space is needed and you're feeling bold, someone as important as Ackbar (for whom the only addition would be "He made a battle plan for Ebaq and then he died.").

    I also think the suggestion of group entries is great. A great way to save space but still include important characters.

    Original content is the most important thing. What I really want to see in an entry is a complete story. Something like Raith Sienar's entry, which really went out and invented a bunch of backstory for him as well as establishing post-Rogue Planet stuff, is what I like. It was a birth-to-death biography, and if Rogue Planet didn't give all that you filled it out. I want a book like the Atlas that aggressively goes out and establishes information, that ties stuff together and makes needed retcons and offers cool new details. I want an entry on Hobbie Klivian that gives the poor guy an age, gives an explanation for the nickname Hobbie, tells us what he was doing during the Yuuzhan Vong War and Second Galactic Civil War, and finally definitively retcons the Rand Ecliptic mutiny. I want an entry on Wes Janson that gives him an age and a background that begins sometime before he's in the Tierfon Yellow Aces.

    Also, great artwork. And IU blurbs would intrigue me, though I'd be willing to lose them if it meant more space for more characters who were getting some expansion.

    As for actual characters, I'm working on a comprehensive list that I'll have up tomorrow.:p
  12. Lord_Hydronium Manager Emeritus

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    Eh, from a pure EU-fan standpoint, sure, that would be great. But if we're discussing anything that could realistically come out, that wouldn't fly; if I'm Joe SW Consumer buying anything called "Essential", I'd have certain expectations going in of what it'll tell me. People who see it in a store are probably going to want to know what Ackbar's deal is, or who this Thrawn guy is that everyone talks about. Leaving stuff like that out, or telling them "nope, you have to buy this other book" don't really seem like they'd make for happy consumers. Just like how even the Atlas had to devote some pages to recapping the movies.

    I know I'm not usually the "but MARKETING" guy, but I figure if we're discussing this as at all a realistic hypothetical, it's something that ought to be taken into consideration. In a perfect world, I'd like an Essential Guide to All My Favorite Characters (which is a list I could make here too :p).

    EDIT: That's not to say I want the NEGTC copy/pasted. What would be good to satisfy the above concern while also making it worth EU fans' whiles is to give something significant and new on those characters that don't have much going on by themselves. Give Ackbar a young adulthood, something about the politicking of Isard, etc. Those IU passages could really help here; repeating Ackbar's NEGTC entry might not be interesting, but a bit from his memoirs or something would be.

    EDIT 2: Meh, I sound like a real killjoy here. Let's go on posting cool things we want to see.
  13. Xoxaan11594 Jedi Knight

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    While recounting events of the novels and comics, this book should also invent new information in the same vein as the Essential Atlas (maybe even use new EA info in this book [face_whistling]). I think:

    Cal Omas is a must
    Expanded entries on each member of Skywalker/Solos (Ben gets a full entry now)
    Ahsoka Tano (it haad to be done)
    Yularen deserves one
    Zayne, Jarael, Gryph
    Cade, Krayt, ROan Fel
    Jag needs a complete entry (possibly in place of his father's? Soontir isn't that important)
    Jedi such as Aayla, Kit, Shaak Ti, Luminara deserve their own entries now
    And I must add this after reading Rogue 1 and a half's recent reviews: THE SKULL QUEEN :p
  14. Darth McClain Arena Manager Emeritus

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    In-universe? Yep.

    Cal Omas? Yep.

    Zayne Carrick? Yep.

    Those are probably the three things that I'd like to see the most. Two of them would be in there, if/when this would happen. I really liked the in-universe nature of the Atlas.


  15. Zorrixor Chosen One

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    An additional thought that occurs to me about the artwork is I'm not particularly interested in the generic rigid marionette poses from the NEGTC. What I liked about the artwork in the Atlas and the EGTTF was neither had arbitrary "This is an image of Naga Sadow in a skirt" pictures, but were much more interesting action shots (e.g. Shira Brie in the tank) and/or portraitesque headshots (e.g. Niathal).

    Meaning, for characters like Zayne who we already know what he looks like, I'd prefer more scenic images than just a rigid drawing of "This is Zayne Carrick. He wears green and has a lightsaber." For instance, while Haazen and Demagol probably won't warrant their own articles as they'd just be repeating what was already in Zayne's, but I'd love to see extra characters represented in artwork by having more action poses, e.g. have an Atlas-class artwork shot of Zayne duelling Lucien with Haazen looking on.

    That sort of thing. Three characters in one, even if it's only worth having an actual article for one of them.
    Yeah, I'd like things like that. Ackbar's dead so it's unlikely fleshing out his youth is going to ever step on anyone's toes, and even in future stories set back when he was alive, it isn't like what he was like as a young fishling when he first popped out of an egg has ever come up before, meaning it's probably the sort of stuff that'll only get explored in a sourcebook anyway, so makes sense to do just that.

    Heck, even with the Big 3, if you're not even an EU fan and are buying this because you want to know more about that cool Han Solo guy from the films, you're not going to be buying it to read what happened in ANH: everyone already knows that. What you'll be buying it for is to learn more about where this Han guy came from, and what he did after ROTJ. If that provides an excuse to possibly add a bit more info about his childhood, then fair do's, everyone's happy, EU and non-EU fans alike.

    (Admittedly, Han's perhaps a bad example, as personally I'm actually hoping they dig up the cut ROTS content and he shows up in TCW at some point. But, ignoring that, hypothetically I think even the Big 3 can be done in a "General Skywalker once fought this guy called Lord Shadowspawn" way to provide even us hardcore EU junkies with some interesting new nuggets about potential future/untold stories.)
  16. CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus

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    In keeping with this - Mara's childhood, anyone? Zahn's had nineteen years; it's time someone did it.
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    I'm holding out hope for the Battles of Champala and Anx Minor to turn into a book someday. :p


    I do think the memoirs idea is a great one, though.
  18. Havac Former Moderator

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    I agree to a certain extent -- it's unlikely they'd just remove Ackbar, but beyond the extremely obligatory movie/EU-royalty characters, anybody who's already covered should be left out. For example, Booster Terrik is probably a more important character throughout the EU than Fyor Rodan. But there's nothing really new to say about Booster, so leave him out and include Rodan. Tycho Celchu is important, but he already got an entry. Give his page to Valenthyne Farfalla or Etahn A'baht. I don't care if Zuckuss is in the movies; include Ephin Sarreti instead. That kind of stuff.
  19. Lord_Hydronium Manager Emeritus

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    Okay, I agree on that. Tycho probably isn't as essential as I considered before.

    On the subject of prominent EU characters, Winter and Garm Bel Iblis are two notable absences from the NEGTC. Garm's been mentioned in this thread, at least.
  20. Havac Former Moderator

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    Okay, now I know I'll be leaving someone off, but this is a just a list of ideas; I'm not making the thing now. So here's my reasonably-comprehensive list of people I'd like to see included. The last one was about 100 entries; because this really needs to be expanded to be viable as a new edition (the universe only keeps getting bigger), I'm giving about 150 ideas for entries, broken up by type/priority.

    Must-includes:
    1. Luke Skywalker
    2. Mara Jade Skywalker
    3. Ben Skywalker
    4. Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader
    5. Han Solo
    6. Leia Solo
    7. Jaina Solo
    8. Jacen Solo/Darth Caedus
    9. Palpatine/Darth Sidious
    10. Dooku/Darth Tyranus
    11. Lando Calrissian
    12. Wedge Antilles
    13. Obi-Wan Kenobi
    14. Revan
    15. Cade Skywalker
    16. Jagged Fel
    17. Zayne Carrick
    18. Bail Organa
    19. Padme Amidala
    20. Gilad Pellaeon
    21. Boba Fett
    22. Ahsoka Tano
    23. Yoda
    24. Shimrra Jamaane
    25. Mace Windu
    26. Darth Bane
    27. Nom Anor
    28. Grievous
    29. Asajj Ventress
    30. C-3PO/R2-D2

    People who are extremely important but have little new information to add (basically obligatory, but could at least theoretically be cut for space):

    31. Thrawn
    32. Ulic Qel-Droma
    33. Exar Kun
    34. Nomi Sunrider (probably moves to must-include if this comes out after the Nomi novel)
    35. Wilhuff Tarkin
    36. Qui-Gon Jinn
    37. Mon Mothma
    38. Ackbar
    39. Jabba Desilijic Tiure
    40. Borsk Fey'lya
    41. Jango Fett
    42. Talon Karrde
    43. Chewbacca
    44. Darth Maul
    45. Xizor
    46. Garm Bel Iblis

    Supporting characters (not must-includes, but important and worth including):

    47. Kyp Durron
    48. Kyle Katarn
    49. Cal Omas
    50. Corran Horn
    51. A'Sharad Hett/Darth Krayt
    52. Roan Fel (possibly as a group with the other Imperial Knights ? Marasiah Fel, Antares Draco, Treis Sinde, Ganner Krieg, Azlyn Rae)
    53. Gar Stazi (these Legacy inclusions are a little difficult, as they revolve around characters John's still exploring where he's reluctant to establish a lot of backstory ahead of time, but they are really important characters)
    54. Tahiri Veila
    55. Alema Rar
    56. Quinlan Vos
    57. Lumiya
    58. Galen Marek
    59. Bastila Shan
    60. The Jedi Exile (please for the love of God just give her a name)
    61. Tsavong Lah
    62. Darth Zannah
    63. Natasi Daala
    64. Vestara Khai
    65. Tenel Ka Djo
    66. Allana Solo
    67. Cha Niathal
    68. Dur Gejjen
    69. Zekk
    70. Aayla Secura
    71. Vergere

    Suggested inclusions (this is where my personal suggestions really come into play):

    72. Ranulph Tarkin (important but underexplored; a good opportunity to add information and flesh out an era)
    73. Fyor Rodan
    74. Derek Klivian
    75. Wes Janson
    76. Dexter Jettster
    77. Alek/Darth Malak
    78. Carth Onasi
    79. Jarael
    80. Valenthyne Farfalla
    81. Lord Hoth
    82. Goran Beviin
    83. Carnor Jax
    84. Darth Ruin
    85. T'ra Saa
    86. Sagoro Autem
    87. Lon Shevu
    88. Droma
    89. Antinnis Tremayne
    90. Irek Ismaren/Lord Nyax
    91. Barriss Offee
    92. Jax Pavan
    93. Cronal/Blackhole/Lord Shadowspawn
    94. Jorj Car'das
    95. Dass Jennir
    96. Janek Sunber
    97. Maarek Stele
    98. Turr Phennir
    99. Darca Nyl
    100. Voss Parck
    101. Dani (from Marvel)
    102. Carlist Rieekan
    103. Kitster Banai
    104. Blotus (you know you want to)
    105. Finis Valorum
    106. Jaden Korr
    107. Voren Na'al
    108. Etahn A'baht
    109. Keyan Farlander
    110. Hiram Drayson
    111. Chaf'orm'bintrano
    112. Wynn Dorvan
    113. Ardus Kaine
    114. Raynar Thul
    115. Lomi Plo
    116. Lord Lestra Oxic
    117. K'Kruhk
    118. Traest Kre'fey
    119. Sien Sovv
    120. Brenn Tantor (because Force Commander needs more love)
    121. Ace Azzameen
    122. Aurra Sing
    123. Cad Bane
    124. Nick Rostu
    125. Akanah Norand Goss Pell
    126. Malinza Thanas
    127. Elegos A'kla
    128. Droma
    129. Tallisibeth "Scout" Enwandung-Esterhazy
    130. Durge
    131. Alto Stratus
    132. Muuurgh
    133. Callista Masana
    134. Danni Quee
    135. Lowbacca
    136. Jolee Bindo
    137. Nen Yim
    138. Isplourrdacartha Estillo
    139. Garris Shrike
    140. Ki-Adi-Mundi
    141. Wrenga Jixton
    142. Arkoh Adasca
    143. Vrook Lamar
    144. Demagol/Antos Wyrick
    145. I-5YQ
    146. Deena Shan
    147. Sora Bulq

    Suggested group inclusions (because I think groups are a really good idea; I'd like to see significant treatment of each person, not just blurbs, but by grouping them together it would al
  21. Zorrixor Chosen One

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    Like the idea of subtle canon drops like a previously unheard of Mandalore.
    I second this.

    In terms of "new info that a [N]NEGTC could include", I'd kill for a sentence that simply said something along the lines of "After she left the Order, she changed her name so that people would no longer recognise her as the person responsible for the lives lost at Malachor when the Mass Shadow Generator was activated."

    That way we get a canon name, and the "new identity" we chose to give her in the game.

    The idea of putting the Lost Jedi together in a "group entry" is nice too. None of them really warrant individual articles, but it'd be nice to see them included, and (depending on what TOR does or does not plan to do) if it could give any post-KOTOR2 bits like "Mical became a Jedi Master on the reformed Jedi Council; Bastila became the Jedi Grand Master, etc. (Or whatever.)" that'd be awesome.
  22. Senator_Cilghal Force Ghost

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    Jul 19, 2003
    star 5
    some of the Clone Wars novel characters could sure use pics...heck, some of them belong to species we've never even seen illustrated, like Zeetsa, X'Ting, Vippits, Equani, and Nediji. And some of them have slipped over into the Dark Times novels as well.
  23. AdmiralNick22 Fleet Admiral of Literature

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    May 28, 2003
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    The inclusion of Pellaeon in your top 30 is the only one that suprised me. For me, Pellaeon would fit better in your second category.

    Otherwise, I don't think i could of made a better list myself. Dan, I heartly recommend that you make a copy of Havac's list and file it somewhere. ;)

    --Adm. Nick
  24. Ulicus Lit'ari

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    Jul 24, 2005
    star 6
    Thirded.

    *cough*Sareth Dorn*cough*

    (Context: Before BioWare decided to give Bastila the name of the Cathar character who became Juhani -- I still don't know why, since "Bastila" screams Cathar at me -- she was to be Sareth Dorn.)

    Still, anything would be better than using "the (Jedi) Exile" all the time.
  25. SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus

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    For obvious reasons...

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    Anyone insane-enough to lead an assault on the front-door of the Jedi Temple DESERVES their own entry.
    Just because.