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Third Installment of the 2007 Jedi Draft [USWD Trial Underway]

Discussion in 'Star Wars Community' started by DarthIntegral, Oct 9, 2007.

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  1. Shadow_of_Durron

    Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Knight star 6

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    Because Revan needs to be specified one way or the other. Whether or not he's specified during the drafting process is really meaningless. Just as long as he is by the time the matches start.

    And you do know you're up again, right?
     
  2. PRENNTACULAR

    PRENNTACULAR VIP star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Pick Thon.
     
  3. KenKenobi

    KenKenobi Chosen One star 6

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    Dew it.

    EDIT: Also, Mace > Kenobi? lulz.
     
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  4. Shadow_of_Durron

    Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Knight star 6

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  5. PRENNTACULAR

    PRENNTACULAR VIP star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's definitely not leaps and bounds, by any means. It's obviously close...and people will have their opinions. But I think that's what it comes down to, concerning these two. Who you like better. They're both pretty awesome, and they both went right around where they should have. One went right after the other.
     
  6. KenKenobi

    KenKenobi Chosen One star 6

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    Right.

    kewl.

    Thon would beat them both, even if he didn't have thumbs.
     
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  7. PRENNTACULAR

    PRENNTACULAR VIP star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I know...I really should have drafted him...I just couldn't help my fanboy self when I saw Mace on the list.
     
  8. TheManinBlack

    TheManinBlack Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I still think I was smart for picking Malak...ah well
     
  9. Ghost_Jedi

    Ghost_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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  10. tulakhordpwns

    tulakhordpwns Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I'll pick Darth Traya.
     
  11. Shadow_of_Durron

    Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Knight star 6

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    That still doesn't make much of any sense. Everyone waiting on darkside teams and having the first darksider picked at, like, #7, or whatever... that wouldn't really change a single thing. We'd just have all the darkside teams jamming up the middle of the order.

    Anyways, whatever.
     
  12. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    I dunno. Picking second, you really need to take the best talent available. Because you have no idea if there will be too many DS teams or too many LS teams, or a good mix of both. So, you have to hedge your bets, and keep options available to do either a good team, or a good collection of individuals, IMO. So, downgrading a pick because the other people took too many of the same "side" just seems ... off. There is NEVER a problem with taking Sidious the pick after Luke. period.
     
  13. Ghost_Jedi

    Ghost_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Where is the value of the pick if in having a real good first pick, if you dont have valuable players to build around him.
     
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  14. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    What's the value of having a good, cohesive team if you don't have the horses to ride to a teams battle?
     
  15. Shadow_of_Durron

    Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Knight star 6

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    So nobody should pick Sidious, then?
     
  16. Ghost_Jedi

    Ghost_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    well since there are 5 other ds teams, at this point who is it easier to build a team around Yoda or Sid?
     
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  17. PRENNTACULAR

    PRENNTACULAR VIP star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No, nobody should pick Sids. He's a pooka Sith at best.
     
  18. Shadow_of_Durron

    Shadow_of_Durron Jedi Knight star 6

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    So... once again, you're suggesting GMs should be able to see the future?

    And actually there are more than 6 darkside teams currently, assuming that everyone who has a first round Sith, stays Sith the whole way through. But you think having six darkside teams out of sixteen total is a problem? You serious? You really think there aren't at least 36 darkisiders out there worth drafting?
     
  19. Zizz

    Zizz Jedi Master star 4

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    Just out of curiosity, does a GM have to select which peak they want Sids at, perhaps not during the draft, but at least once the matches start? I would imagine most would go with Prequel Sids, as he would still beat almost all of the board at that point, but some still might go for crazy, uber-powerful Sids.
     
  20. KenKenobi

    KenKenobi Chosen One star 6

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    Nah. Palps is Palps. Crazy Dark Empire-class and Prequel Sids included.
     
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  21. Zizz

    Zizz Jedi Master star 4

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    Isn't DE Sids much better individually, but much worse in teams? Isn't that a bit of a conflict? Why should the GM get the best of both worlds when they occur at separate peaks?
     
  22. Talon_Kenobi

    Talon_Kenobi Jedi Master star 4

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    Not Another Sith Team, YIKES!
    Darth Tyranus
    Darth Maul


    I was thinking of a trade. But Maul is a very good darksider, especially at this point. And with him I don't lose any of my drafting spots. Also as Tyranus as a leader, you have very little problem with cohesion because of his charisma and ability to manipulate people
     
  23. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    Draft Order:

    Round 1

    1. KiwiRogue - Luke Skywalker
    2. Aragorn327 - Darth Sidious
    3. BartSimpson-SithLord - Yoda
    4. Suzuki_Akira - Darth Caedus
    5. Darth-Horax - Obi-Wan Kenobi
    6. MASTERPRENN - Mace Windu
    7. captain-fantastic - Darth Vader
    8. Trip - Revan
    9. Mace-Wan_Winobi - Anakin Skywalker
    10. KenKenobi - Ulic Qel-Droma
    11. 21st - The Exile
    12. Zizz - Exar Kun
    13. TheManinBlack - Darth Malak
    14. Talon_Kenobi - Darth Tyranus
    15. tulakhordpwns - Darth Bane
    16. Kev-Mas_Colcha - Kol Skywalker

    Round 2

    1. Kev-Mas_Colcha - A'Sharad Hett
    2. tulakhordpwns - Darth Traya
    3. Talon_Kenobi - Darth Maul
    4. TheManinBlack - ON THE CLOCK!
    5. Zizz -
    6. 21st
    7. KenKenobi
    8. Mace_Wan_Winobi
    9. Trip
    10. captain-fantastic
    11. MASTERPRENN
    12. Darth-Horax
    13. Suzuki_Akira
    14. BartSimpson-SithLord
    15. Aragorn327
    16. KiwiRogue

    Round 3

    1. KiwiRogue
    2. Aragorn327
    3. BartSimpson-SithLord
    4. Suzuki_Akira
    5. Darth-Horax
    6. MASTERPRENN
    7. captain-fantastic
    8. Trip
    9. Mace-Wan_Winobi
    10. KenKenobi
    11. 21st
    12. Zizz
    13. TheManinBlack
    14. Talon_Kenobi
    15. tulakhordpwns
    16. Kev-Mas_Colcha

    Round 4

    1. Kev-Mas_Colcha
    2. tulakhordpwns
    3. Talon_Kenobi
    4. TheManinBlack
    5. Zizz
    6. 21st
    7. KenKenobi
    8. Mace_Wan_Winobi
    9. Trip
    10. captain-fantastic
    11. MASTERPRENN
    12. Darth-Horax
    13. Suzuki_Akira
    14. BartSimpson-SithLord
    15. Aragorn327
    16. KiwiRogue

    Round 5

    1. KiwiRogue
    2. Aragorn327
    3. BartSimpson-SithLord
    4. Suzuki_Akira
    5. Darth-Horax
    6. MASTERPRENN
    7. captain-fantastic
    8. Trip
    9. Mace-Wan_Winobi
    10. KenKenobi
    11. 21st
    12. Zizz
    13. TheManinBlack
    14. Talon_Kenobi
    15. tulakhordpwns
    16. Kev-Mas_Colcha

    Round 6

    1. Kev-Mas_Colcha
    2. tulakhordpwns
    3. Talon_Kenobi
    4. TheManinBlack
    5. Zizz
    6. 21st
    7. KenKenobi
    8. Mace_Wan_Winobi
    9. Trip
    10. captain-fantastic
    11. MASTERPRENN
    12. Darth-Horax
    13. Suzuki_Akira
    14. BartSimpson-SithLord
    15. Aragorn327
    16. KiwiRogue


    Draft List

    Aayla Secura
    Adi Gallia
    Agen Kolar
    Ajunta Pall
    Adalric Brandl
    Alema Rar
    Anakin Solo
    Andur Sunrider
    Anoon Bondara
    Antares Draco
    Arca Jeth
    Asajj Ventress
    Atris
    Aurra Sing
    Bant
    Barriss Offee
    Bastila Shan
    Ben Skywalker
    Brakiss
    Callista
    Cade Skywalker
    Cay Qel-Droma
    Cin Drallig
    Coleman Trebor
    Corran Horn
    Crian Maru
    Dace Diath
    Daeshara'cor
    Dark Woman
    Darovit
    Darth Bandon
    Darth Kruhl
    Darth Maleval
    Darth Nihl
    Darth Nihilus
    Darth Sion
    Darth Talon
    Darth Zannah
    Depa Billaba
    Desann
    Duron Qel-Droma
    Echuu Shen-Jon
    Eeth Koth
    Elke Vetter
    Empatojayos Brand
    Etain Tur-Mukan
    Even Piell
    Fable Astin
    Feln
    Feris Olin
    Foul Moudama
    Freedon Nadd
    Ganner Krieg
    Ganner Rhysode
    Gantoris
    Gethzerion
    Githany
    Hardin
    Hethrir
    Ikrit
    Jaden Korr
    Jaina Solo
    Jerec
    Jocasta Nu
    Jolee Bindo
    Jorak Uln
    Joruus C'Baoth
    Juhani
    K'kruhk
    Kam Solusar
    Kar Vastor
    Kavar
    Kenth Hamner
    Ki-Adi-Mundi
    Kiel Charny
    Kiranna Ti
    Kit Fisto
    Komari Vosa
    Kaox Krul
    Kyle Katarn
    Kyp Durron
    Leia Organa-Solo
    Lord Hoth
    Lord Kaan
    Lord Kas?im
    Lord Kopecz
    Lord Nyax
    Lord Qordis
    Lowbacca
    Lucien Draay
    Ludo Kressh
    Luminara Unduli
    Lumiya
    Mara Jade-Skywalker
    Marasiah Fel
    Marka Ragnos
    Naga Sadow
    Nejaa Halcyon
    Nelani Dinn
    Nomi Sunrider
    Octa Ramis
    Odan Urr
    Oppo Rancisis
    Pablo Jill
    Pernicar
    Plo Koon
    Q'Anilia
    Qu Rahn
    Qui-Gon Jinn
    Quinlan Vos
    Raana Tey
    Roan Fel
    Rosh Penin
    Saba Sebatyne
    Saesee Tiin
    Sedriss
    Serra Keto
    Shaak Ti
    Shado Vao
    Sharad Hett
    Shoaneb Culu
    Sirak
    Siri Tachi
    Sora Bulq
    Streen
    Sylvar
    Tahiri Veila
    Tamith Kai
    Tenel Ka
    Tavion
    Tesar Sebatyne
    Thann Mithric
    Tholme
    Thon
    Tott Doneeta
    Tr'a Saa
    Tremayne
    Tresina Lobi
    Tsui Choi
    Tyvokka
    Uthar Wynn
    Vergere
    Valenthyne Farfalla
    Vi
     
  24. Ghost_Jedi

    Ghost_Jedi Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    There is no way I am predicting a gm can predict the future. However an experienced gm like Aragon should realize, even with new dsers, the ds talent pool is not as deep as the ls pool. If one was to go back and analyze past champions, and whats has derailed powerful ds teams, it is usually one too many ds teams.

    Further I think taking the first round pick, you should have an idea as to who you want to build around them. Perhaps creating a list. This list would also be helpful in pming picks. The list of secondary picks for a ls team is deeper than ds.
     
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  25. Zizz

    Zizz Jedi Master star 4

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    Wouldn't each of the following GM's that selected after Aragorn face the exact same problem though, and by your logic, should they not have taken Sids either? How long should he have lasted until it would've been worth it? I think I understand what you're saying, I just don't agree with the logic. Someone was going to have to pick Sidious, and it's better to not let him slip so far that he would become a steal and someone could build a monster team around him.
     
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