Discussion in 'Star Wars Community' started by DarthIntegral, Oct 9, 2007.
Yeah I was sort of making a joke/insulting Mara based on the "three great minds" bit...
Kyp? Suzi? Anyone out there?
I'm gonna go with Boba and Kyle.
Team Rufio (6) vs. Ko He shin (5)
How about the pilots this time?
Han Solo, Baron Soontir Fel, Wes Janson and Derek "Hobbie" Klivian (Prepared by Leia Organa-Solo) vs. Anakin Skywalker, Tycho Celchu, Gavin Darklighter, and Saesee Tiin (Unprepared)
That's some match. Winner seems pretty obvious, though.
I actually think it's far from clear cut. Four of the five best pilots are on one side, but that team is unprepared for combat. The other team doesn't have slouches, and they're prepared for battle, and they have cohesion on their side. But, the other team isn't bad in cohesion, simply two-pairs of wingmates trying to fly as a foursome.
Far from clear cut, IMO.
When is this thing actually going to start?
I'd say the lack of prep isn't too big a concern, since Tycho knows the entire other team pretty damn well, and Gavin knows 3/4 of four. Its not like they need a big dossier on the other folks.
but seriously, just vote. I can't imagine I will be winning the Jedi part with Luke the team killer on the other side, so I figure this is pretty irrelevant.
Anakin > Fel > Tiin > Tycho > Gavin > Han > Wes > Hobbie
Gives a strong individual advantage to Ko He Shin. At least as strong as you can have in a match like this.
Force obviously goes to Ko He Shin as well.
Cohesion goes to Rufio, but not by a lot.
Being prepared by Leia gives a big advantage to Rufio, as well.
In the end, though, I just don't see anyone shooting down Anakin in this dogfight. They'll know he's the best of the group before they start, but that doesn't mean they can take him down, not with the other three too capable to allow any one to double up on Anakin.
Ko He Shin wins a squeaker.
How is Leia's prep a big advantage?
They get a chance to work on a strategy (the other team doesn't)
Leia is very familiar with half of the other team
Leia has experience in helping prepare troops for battle and (though not doing it here, it helps) has directed pilots in battle
Leia provides extra motivation for Han
I can stop now, though. It's a decent advantage. I'd think that in general your piloting team is the one you'd want prepared, especially when/if mixing eras.
In a match of this caliber the prepped team has a huge advantage, IMO. I don't think Annykins is invincible, especially not when he's being led into what will probably be a trap. I imagine the prep would tell them who they are flying against(whereas the other team won't know) and so there won't be any skill-based surprises. Well trained soldiers are always an advantage, but in war ambushes tend to negate many such advantages, IMO. I think the prep team makes it close just on virtue of being close on all categories, and being prepped.
Tycho is very cool under pressure, Gavin's a pretty creative one and Anakin is prodigious with a stick in his hands(no jokes plz). I'm not sure even that advantage would give it to them. Anakin's ability to improvise, I think, is what is going to offset the prep enough to his team the close win. So sue me.
Team Rufio (6) vs. Ko He shin (6)
And finally the Jeedai?
Luke Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Ulic-Qel Droma, and Kyp Durron (Unprepared) vs. Darth Vader, Darth Bane, Exar Kun, and Darth Krat (Prepared by Nial Declann)
That's the greatest pilot battle I've seen since Borleias. Also, good judgments.
Obi-Wan can't handle offensive Force powers, so clearly the team with Bane on it should win.
So ... team Luke wins, yes? It's somewhat close-ish. No one on Ko He Shin is going down easily. But no one over there has the ability to take down Luke. Regardless of Prep and what he's told, Vader's pretty much going straight for Obi-Wan, no matter what, I'd imagine. Ulic and Kun is a decent enough battle that would probably be happening as a side battle, and that leaves Luke/Kyp against Bane/Krayt. Doesn't Bane hate Krayt? Even if he doesn't, that's a pretty clear victory, and Luke can then help end the other battles, or take on the surviving Sith.
So, yeah, in the real thing, we use this format, but Luke cannot do Force Combat.
Agreed and agreed.
Cool. Ken wins. He'll get a guaranteed spot in the USWD.
So now...what? We start the real thing? Hold discussion over what just happened, or...?
Whoa your guys' colors are trippin me out.
I'll give a few days for discussion before starting the real thing. I think the new system will work well, though.
And I think Luke is the only one who needs a restriction.