Discussion in 'Communications' started by AaylaSecurOWNED, Dec 7, 2009.
The WT* rule is B*
Having to post wt[horbiddin letter] was half the fun of Games outrage.
That and shirt.
EDIT: You have to star that out.
The way I see it, the F is a way to express the word **** without actually typing it. Having to star out the F makes no sense because just like in "What the Frak," everyone knows what's being said with "What the Star." Censoring the F actually doesn't accomplish anything.
I'd go one further and say that WT* actually brings more attention to itself than the original acronym.
I actually agree with that completely.
I wouldn't even have known hal had posted if the 'F' had been present.
But seriosly, yeah. hal's right.
I'm a wealth of insight on this one.
Well. If you seek Amy.
Yes. And the fact is that there is an accepted level of language that is not classified as swearing to the point of intervention by society. And, evidently, (as evidenced by the years of the rule being enforced), this acronym is in the generally accepted level of language that is not allowed.
Sure, you can swear.
But GIMER refers to when 'swearing' as 'words that require intervention'.
Such as WT*.
You are not stating facts, either. You're just splitting hairs.
EDIT: After all that I forgot the most important sentence;
I am really unsure what you are saying, but it seems like you are saying it's a good rule because we've had it and enforced it for a time. But really that's a poor argument.
1. We've change long standing rules before.
2. The WT* rule has been controversial and hated by mods and users alike since its inception.
3. Enforcing this rule does not imply supporting it. I have to enforce it, as it's my job. But I don't have to like it or support it and I never have once since becoming a mod.
Technically we do guide our rules at least partially based on other media- we do usually go by the general rule of thumb of keeping things within that general PG/PG-13 guideline to be in line with the films these boards are centered around.
So, while that's not a hardline ruling for policy here, it does characterize and factor into policy considerations through a comparison to other media entertainment and classification. So, such comparisons would be valid arguments to consider.
Whatever rule regarding abbriviated swear words is implemented, it must be consistant. One user who is allowed to get away with using it should mean that all users are entitled to get away with it.
If you want my opinion I say that we should look into the language barrier because when certain words are posted they are starred out. Apparently it is well within the forum rules to use these words if they are completely starred out beforehand, however because the censor program on the forums stars these words out anyway there can be controversy when someone appears to use these words and get away with it, while someone who uses the same word does not, giving the appearence of inconsistant management of the forum.
Nobody should be "getting away with" using a disallowed word unless a moderator happens to miss it in a post. I'm not even sure if the language filter works anymore.
The language filter hasn't worked for over a year now, and there's no telling if it'll ever be working again.
Yeah - it was a casualty of the board code changes..
Good thing, too. We couldn't say homo sapien.
Ban Darth_Guy plz.
UPDATE: After a lengthy discussion of this issue in MS, a poll with both JC and FF mods participating, and a discussion between myself and Philip Wise, we have decided that the "WTF" rule will be changed. The abbreviation "WTF" is now allowed on the boards.
Please note that this does not change the existing rule in place for other abbreviations that use disallowed words. The existing rules still apply to all other abbreviations. Why? Because our lengthy MS discussion showed that support for changing this rule was about 50/50, because the focus of our discussion was primarily on "WTF" and not other abbreviations, and because our poll was only focused on "WTF".
So there you have it. Please note that the Official Profanity and Disallowed Words List has been updated to reflect the change.
So glad to see that a decision was finally made... thanks guys.
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