Lit "This is a rebellion isn't it? I rebel." - The Official Rebel Alliance Discussion Thread (spoilers)

Not sure if this fits with the tread.......

I think in canon after ROTJ Luke leaves the rebellion and everything else because he believes he's done his bit. For him his war was against Vader and the emperor, it's the rebellions/new republic's job to clean up what's left of the empire.

 

A lot of Rebels seem to have done that, at least the background of many people we have seen in new canon has that vibe.

 

Isn't the Contruum resistance under General Cracken canon again? I vaguely recall it popping up again in the BTA series, anyone recall where?

--Adm. Nick

 

So do you think the 'Catalyst' book will focus on the formation of the Rebellion much in the time just before Rogue One or do you think it will follow Jyn's story more?

 

Afaik Moving Target mentioned it.

 

As far as I can tell, the word Contruum appears nowhere in Moving Target. Of course, Cracken is in it, but "his people" are just his Intelligence operatives.

 

One of the things I always wanted to see (one of the many reasons I was pissed that the old EU never really explored the ROTS-to-ANH era) is how the galaxy goes from its Clone Wars political alignments to its Galactic Civil War alignments twenty years later. Which is to say, which factions in the late Republic/Clone Wars era would end up becoming Rebels later? (Other than the obvious ones - the Alderaanian, Corellian, Chandrillan factions that were obviously based around Bail Organa, Garm Bel Iblis, Mon Mothma).

And my basic conclusion was that the answer would be "people who didn't have a good relationship with either of the two sides of the Clone Wars." Presumably, most of the people who were hardcore Loyalists to the very end were people who were okay with what Palpatine was turning the Republic into (and those who weren't were either wiped out, like the Jedi, or a marginalized minority, like Bail Organa and Mon Mothma). And presumably, most of the people who were hardcore Separatists wouldn't be interested in "restoring the Republic" in any way, shape, or form. So while you'd still have ex-Separatists or ex-Loyalists/Imperials, ground zero for pro-Rebel sentiment would probably be people who weren't big fans of either side. Like the Nebula Front or Freedom's Sons.

(NuCanonically, this is true at least in one case: Cham Syndulla's movement on Ryloth. Anti-Separatist insurgents who also had a very bad relationship with their senator on Coruscant and, by extension, the entire Republic, and who later turn into the proto-Rebel cell on their world. More of these, please!)

 

The King of Onderon, whom Saw Gerrara restored to the throne, was a proponent of neutrality and didn't like either side. Saw might feel the same way - and pass on his attitude to his group.

 

So far, it appears that Seppies weren't really part of the Rebellion. It tends to be mostly composed of either diehard Old Republic loyalists (Alderaan, Chandrila, Mon Cala, etc) or worlds that suffered greatly under the Empire (Onderon, Sullust, Ryloth).

I've always assumed that many of the more ardent Seppie worlds (Muunilinst, Scipio, Serenno, Raxus Prime, etc) probably were just as skeptical of the Rebels as they were of the Empire. To a die hard Seppie, it probably appeared to be a true civil war between differing views on the Republic/what the Republic came.

The only real concrete mention we get of the former Separatist worlds in the NEU comes from TFA Visual Guide. Apparently the New Republic's decision to not base it's capital on Coruscant helped convince a lot of them to join the new government. I assume this was more a reference to world's with genuine grievances against the Republic who hoped for reform, not world's like Neimoidia or others that truly exploited things to their advantage.

--Adm. Nick

 

Well, as you know, the Loyalist who supported the Republic during the Clone Wars really start splitting pre-Palpatine declaring himself Emperor, as we see in ROTS.

There are ones like Bail Organa, Mon Mothma, Padme Amidala, and Meena Tills who are loyal to the Republic but not the Empire that Palpatine is turning the Old Republic into, while you have other Loyalists like Wilhuff Tarkin, Mas Amedda, and others who are loyal to the Emperor's vision for turning the Republic into the first Galactic Empire.

--Adm. Nick

 

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yeah i guess we view them all as heroes, and the empire all as evil. But maybe its not that cut and dry. But it still had to be done

 

You are missing Berch Teller's group from the Tarkin novel.

 

Hmm, I just double checked Moving Target to see if Cracken being from Contruum is mentioned. It isn't, nor is it in any of the new canon Ultimate guides. Hmm, I swore I read about Contruum being canon again somewhere, I'll keep checking.

Ok, I see. I assumed you were using the term Loyalist in relation to the Loyalist committee during the Clone Wars, not "loyalists" of the Empire. I do rather hope that the Generationals become canon again, as it was a cool concept. Plus I can totally see a lot of Generalionals eventually supporting the New Republic, either out of necessity or the fact that they view it as their duty to continue in the service. Of course, I am still convinced that if Palpatine's treachery is ever revealed that these folks would be the first to turn on the old Empire and support the New Republic.

--Adm. Nick

 

Rather peculiar, since it's right next door to the planet Hoth, which I seem to recall having some kind of Rebel Alliance presence on it at one point.

 

True, but calling it cell structure implies it at least being a part of the larger whole, despite the isolation such a structure brings. This makes it sound like it wasn't a cell so much as a completely separate organization.

 

The lothal proto-rebels are also an interesting group. Ryder Azadi providing cover, the older Bridger transsmisions. It's all coming up nicely in the Adventures in Wild Space series, I recommend reading them, third part onwards got me very hooked. And I suppose I will see more of them as soon as I start The Dark, and potentialy in the last two books.

 

So where were Mon Mothma and the rest of the leaders during the Battle of Yavin?

 

But where was Chancellor Mothma? At sea?

 

Maybve the Rebels kept her somewhere safe just to make sure they wouldn't lose both their leaders in just a few days?