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Discussion in 'Archive: Attack of the Clones' started by Kayla', Oct 13, 1999.

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Zaphod Beeblebrox Jedi Padawan

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Aug 26, 1999

canon shmanon

Zaphod Beeblebrox, Jan 9, 2001

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Coolguy4522 Jedi Youngling

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Dec 21, 2000

The EU is fun to read for those who want it. I liked the Thrawn Trilogy and I even thought truce at baktura was ok. However, Vector Prime and the NJO is crap. No one, not even the most die hard star wars fan should read it. Just because Lucasfilm is leaning to the "sellout the story to make a buck" that star trek did dosn't mean that we should think any of the good or the bad "happend" in SW. The EU isn't really wrong or non-cannon until GL contradicts it but there is a good chance he will, so to look for spoilers in it is STUPID! Jaster Merrerl will NOT be boba fetts name. Get over it.

im sure its a big disappointment

Coolguy4522, Jan 9, 2001

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Darth Binky Jedi Grand Master

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Oct 24, 1999

"Where did you dig up that old fossil?"

Darth Binky, Jan 9, 2001

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dehrian Manager Emeritus VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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Mar 18, 1999

[sarcastic]Actually, I looked up the word "crap" in the OED, and EU was there:

1. excerement, 2. drivel, etc.... 9. Star Wars Extended Universe.[/sarcastic]

dehrian, Jan 9, 2001

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Plo_KoonGZ Jedi Youngling

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Mar 5, 2001

yea chyren way to be impartial and a good admin at the forums EU is crap, wow if i say that will i become a mod

Plo_KoonGZ, Mar 11, 2001

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BobTheGoon Moderator Emeritus VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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Sep 21, 2000

Wow, PoKoonGZ, wonderful way to be a good poster, dragging up old flaming threads. Can I be just like you?

BobTheGoon, Mar 11, 2001

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Q187 Jedi Master

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Jul 5, 2000

Man GZ, you make such great contributions to the boards.

Q187, Mar 11, 2001

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jasman Administrator Emeritus VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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Just had to save this thread. Just brought it back from the brink.

jasman, Dec 18, 2001

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Padme Bra Administrator Emeritus VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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Jul 2, 1999

Chyren:
"The EU is crap."

LOL. You had to love the guy.

Padme Bra, Dec 18, 2001

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Jedi Merkurian Future Films Rumor Naysayer Staff Member Manager

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May 25, 2000

Interesting. I glossed over much of this thread, since I doubt I'll see anything new. Although it is interesting to look at how far back EU hatred goes.

For all the talk of "canon" and how sacred the words of St. George of Lucas are, I still have yet to get an answer to a simple question:

When has George Lucas EVER commented on the notion of "Star Wars canon?"

Jedi Merkurian , Dec 19, 2001

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Commander Antilles Jedi Grand Master

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Jul 21, 1999

Lucas: "Those stories happen outside my little universe."

That's as much as he's said publically on the matter. It should be fairly clear from that what he considers canon.

Commander Antilles, Dec 19, 2001

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DarthSapient Jedi Youngling

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Jun 26, 2001

To him, his movies are all that he considers canon. Everything else is nice, but he makes no attempt at keeping on top of it all.

DarthSapient, Dec 19, 2001

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Jedi Merkurian Future Films Rumor Naysayer Staff Member Manager

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May 25, 2000

What I'm saying is, as much as movie purists like to pick out all of these various quotes from LucasFilm Licensing employees defining "canon," while attempting to discredit the statements of other LFL employees about the definition of "canon," the only person that can truly and decisively define what is "Star Wars Canon" has been curiously mum on the subject.

That leaves fandom to attempt to interpret Lucas' words and deeds, but they are only that: interpretations filtered through our own individual points of view.

We all know about point-of-view, don't we?

Jedi Merkurian , Dec 19, 2001

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TK327 Force Ghost

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May 7, 2001

Lucas: "Those stories happen outside my little universe."

I don't think there's much room for interpretation here.

TK327, Dec 19, 2001

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SlytherinHouse Jedi Master

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Apr 20, 2000

Are you guys about to delete old threads? Is that why you keep bringing back these dinosaurs?

Sly

SlytherinHouse, Dec 19, 2001

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Kwenn Jedi Grand Master

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Mar 30, 2001

Here we go again....

Some books are canon. Others aren't. The movies are. That's it. Stop getting so worked up.

Kwenn, Dec 19, 2001

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padmeamidala55 Jedi Padawan

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Jul 24, 2001

Ya I agree with everything that kween said, if you don't like the EU get over it, george lucas has put his approval on the EU. Plus the Eu is not Cannon.

padmeamidala55, Dec 19, 2001

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Jedi Merkurian Future Films Rumor Naysayer Staff Member Manager

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TK327 wrote:
Lucas: "Those stories happen outside my little universe."

I don't think there's much room for interpretation here.

How about this:

"After Star Wars was released, it became apparent that my story-however many films it took to tell-was only one of thousands that could be told about the characters who inhabit its galaxy. But these were not stories that I was destined to tell. Instead they would spring from the imagination of other writers, inspired by the glimpse of a galaxy that Star Wars provided. Today it is an amazing, if unexpected, legacy of Star Wars that so many gifted writers are contributing new stories to the Saga."
-George Lucas

Put the two together: while George acknowledges that the EU is not the movies (DUH!) he DOES say that the EU is a valid & welcome part of the Star Wars Saga. At NO point has George Lucas EVER commented about the notion of "canon," putting us all back at Square One as far as trying to interpret what he says on the subject.

"...you're going to find that many of the truths you cling to depend greatly upon your point of view..."

Jedi Merkurian , Dec 19, 2001

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Jorus_Kando Jedi Padawan

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Nov 9, 2001

Much as I hate some of the crap that's been published in the EWW, I tend to consider it canon until Lucas contradicts it on film. Maybe someday after all six films are done he'll sit down and make a final ruling on what he considers fit to be an official part of the saga.

Jorus_Kando, Dec 19, 2001

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TK327 Force Ghost

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May 7, 2001

Merkurian-But what you posted doesn't provide any indication that Lucas is concerned with continuity between the EU and his films(that is, unless the EU contradicts the films). What Lucas does is completely independent of the EU, as the quote I provided indicates.

Of course Lucas endorses the EU in a general sense. But his endorsement relates to issues concerning profits, not story telling.

Thanks Charlie. I can't resist.

cinescape www.cinescape.com claims that Terry Brookes never read the Expanded Universe. It also offers a few cool quotes.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>
When asked if The Phantom Menace novelization would jive with the continuity of the Star Wars Expanded Universe novels and comics, Terry Brooks admitted that he had not read or otherwise immersed himself in the events chronicled in those books. In a stunning admission, Brooks then revealed that Lucas allegedly said "I don?t know anything about them either, and frankly I don?t care."

TK327, Dec 19, 2001

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Charlie_Martel Jedi Padawan

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Sep 8, 2001

You guys want to see something funny? Check out what I just found. LOL

Charlie_Martel, Dec 19, 2001

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RogueSith Jedi Master

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Oct 24, 2001

What's he going to say - "I don't give a crap about the books, games, comics or cartoons, I'm gonna do what ever the hell I want with these movies, lava pit be damned!"

Well, ok, he would obviously never word it like that, but he's not going to go on the record saying that the EU is worthless or "doesn't count" because it might hurt sales. You'll find that profit margin is the answer to most questions of why GL does or doesn't do something.

RogueSith, Dec 19, 2001

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Jedi Merkurian Future Films Rumor Naysayer Staff Member Manager

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May 25, 2000

"Merkurian-But what you posted doesn't provide any indication that Lucas is concerned with continuity between the EU and his films"

Let's try this on on for size:

"I wanted to lend, what I'm assuming is, a rather unique perspective on this topic. I have the good fortune to write for Darkhorse Comics, and I can tell you from my own experience that George dose in fact look over the comics from time to time. And although all the story points in the film are not completed, if I'm doing a story that may come into conflict with what he's planing, or if it goes against his ideals -- I will hear about it.

I've even got his faxed sign-off to prove it.

He dose not go over everything, but he is very much aware of what is going on."
-Kevin Rubio, Dark Horse Comics, 12/03/01 TF.N Lit forum

Jedi Merkurian , Dec 19, 2001

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jasman Administrator Emeritus VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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All I have to say is that if Kevin Rubio wants to be in the publishing business, he should learn how to write a coherent sentence.

jasman, Dec 19, 2001

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jasman Administrator Emeritus VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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Grrr. Splinched!

jasman, Dec 19, 2001

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