Amph "If You Seek His Monument, Look Around You" - The Man of Steel and Announced Sequel Thread

My post was made practically at the same time yours. Your post didn't exist when I clicked post.

 

Yeah, I thought that was a possibility, hence just a broader warning.

 

Stop behaving like schoolchildren. I'm getting real tired.

Let me rephrase that too: next time this thread's peace is disturbed you WILL get banned. And that goes for everyone. Complaints? To PMs.

Now, return to your MoS discussion.

 

Like it's hot?

I mean, I will in fact behave sir.

I am you scream we all scream for Internets, I believe it's out 12 November on DVD and Blu-Ray.

 

...eeeeeh, it could be because he was thinking to stop the two reaction masses slamming together. I understood that's how a nuke goes off. No collision, no critical mass.

 

That's alright, 00-Sai. While you sit from your lofty PC Throne, we idiot console gamers will be enjoying GTAV while you...wait. Indefinitely.

As for Batfleck, wouldn't it be funny that all this hubbub is going on yet perhaps his amount of screen time might be negligible in relation to Cavill's? If this Supes/Bats is the MoS sequel, then perhaps it WILL be the MoS sequel, and Affleck's role might be secondary at that.

 

Several articles are already hyping up Affleck as the next Nolan. I wouldn't go that far.

 

Affleck will serve the part well. I just worry that the small role that BW/Batman will have in MoS2 will overshadow Henry Cavill as Superman. I really like Cavill and think he's a great actor.

 

I guess that's the game plan, if the rumors are to be believed: getting Affleck involved in this so that he'd eventually helm a JL film. Some might be feeling antsy at this, since Affleck has never directed any sort of summer blockbuster like that. But then, neither did Nolan prior to his Bat-flicks. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

 

No, it just means that Superman has had a reputation that for some people, they feel is a burden on the character and hard to shake. Batman is about goodness, but he'll break laws and legs to get the job done. Early on, Superman was a rebel. He came in and fought against corruption and social injustices. He fought for the little man. This changed with the end of the second World War and Superman became known as a the Big Blue Boy Scout, who wouldn't harm a fly and was always dishing out fatherly advice. This is why Frank Miller chose to portray Clark as a government stooge, because to him, that was the ultimate end goal for him. Whereas Batman wasn't so popular, at different points, he could go to different extremes and still be workable. That is until he became insanely popular with those who like the **** kicker who would tell Superman that the last time he mattered, was when he was dead. Among the people who think Superman is outdated, this is what they see and what they know of the character. The studio believes that the wholesome image is hurting Superman and thus pushed for the tonality in MOS.

The Joker had drugged Clark, with a combination of the Scarecrow's fear toxin and Green Kryptontie, which made him think that he saw Lois as Doomsday. He took Lois into space thinking that as Doomsday, he could survive the trip as he had before. The Joker had surgically implanted a deadman's detonator to Lois's heart that would set off a nuclear bomb, that levels Metropolis. This was a take off on when Max Lord used his powers to make Clark attack Bruce, thinking that Doomsday, Darkseid, Brainiac and Ruin were attacking Lois. See "The OMAC Project"/"Sacrifice".

 

I have no idea what's going on.

Anyway, entertaining film despite it's flaws.

 

I would've been very happy with the movie if they had cut the final fight with Zod out.

 

Why cut that out? What, because Superman killed?

 

No one complained when Batman broke his one rule and killed Harvey Dent, but a Superman on his first day of supermaning having to reluctantly kill a fellow kryptoninan and expressing utter horror at having done so... everyone loses their minds.

Though I do have to say if they are parodying the animated series... Superman would've damaged the Daily Planet alot more than that too. Man of Steel Superman was a saint compared to how much collateral damage the Timmverse Superman caused daily.

 

I understand why they did what they did. But also... see Grant Morrison.

 

http://batman-news.com/2013/11/07/batman-vs-superman-to-feature-robin-video/]Nightwing[/url] in Man of Steel 2?

Unless this is just a cameo I hope this rumor turns out false. I don't think Nightwing is very well known outside of the comic book audience and there's so much they could do leading up to Nightwing once Batman movies start coming out again. I wonder what superhero will rumored to appear in MOS 2 next? Maybe Lex Luthor will help create Cyborg who rebels before the end of the movie and then teams up with everyone else in the Justice League movie when it finally hits sometime in 2017/2018.

 

That but also even before that it was just too much. Too much action and effects and explosions and buildings falling. They already had a decent climax. It was all unnecessary. The story moved like molasses in the second half of the movie. And why can't we have any heroes that don't kill any more?

 

That wasn't the climax. The climax is Superman versus Zod. That would be a lame ending that Clark doesn't stop his father's killer. That's like ending "A New Hope" with the Millennium Falcon fleeing from the Death Star.

We did. Batman didn't kill. Spider-Man didn't kill. Superman killed here because it was about establishing why he shouldn't kill and that he would have to make a hard choice and if he will in the next film.

 

He did stop him. Zod himself said Clark had taken his purpose.

Batman killed in Nolan's and Burton's films.

I assumed that most if not all that scene was setup for the sequel. So I have to watch the sequel to find out why the film makers pissed me off? If that's what the sequel is about then save that scene for the beginning of that movie.

 

Taking away his purpose is not the same as actually stopping Zod, which is why he went on a rampage. Not going to Crystal Lake doesn't mean that Jason Voorhees has been stopped. The passengers on the ferries not blowing each other up, didn't stop the Joker.

I was talking about the Nolan films. And Batman, like Superman, did kill in the comics.

No, after Clark killed Zod, he screamed because he did that. Then he says to Lois that he shouldn't have done that. What may happen in "Batman Vs Superman" could build off that, i.e., he is faced with the temptation to kill again and Bruce would oppose him for that. It's like in the comics. "The Supergirl Saga" lead to "Exile".

 

Was that a Byrne story?

 

So many good lines. The best, given the DC thread, may be: "I can't believe I'm now rooting for Ben Affleck to kick this guy's ass..."

 

I'm getting the Blu-ray for Christmas for sure!

 

LOL that was great, but they forgot to add a Matrix parody. Morpheus could have just asked for Tank for a line but the Krpyton gang destroyed all the lan lines.