To lit forum,Why you all dising the chiss!

well ill i have to say is that just because gamer5 came out dosent know we know about them. Ill be having the last lagh in ayear or two or three!

 

[It is not standard Imperial policy to execute crew members for errors beyond their control.]

"Admiral Ozzel came out of lightspeed too quickly."
*choking sound*

"Apology accepted Captain Needa."

Kirtan loor fears being blown out of the sky...

Rogue Squadron reveals Needa's family was also imprisoned and/or executed for the incompetance as well....

Tales from the New Republic: A family dies in a bombardment of importance...the captain has his throat crushed...

The one time Thrawn was seen executing a man it was to secure the loyalty I think of conscripts among his men by forcing enlisted officers to treat them as equals.

[The Imperial military and navy are not some death camp operated by Totkopfverbande. It was utterly within Mitty?s prerogatives to reprimand Mr Pieterson, and he chose to have him murdered, then pompously declared that he was not at all like his predecessor as supreme commander.]

Actually it's much worse, the Empire is Stalin's Russia where everyone ESPECIALLY the loyalists to the new Order are under suspicion.

Thrawn proved he was not by allowing the lieutnant responsible to survive after failing to secure the Covert Shroud gambit.

Your comparison of mild specist feelings is not so much Nazi as it is begging a simple question....

Is the Chiss philosophy that other cultures are inferior because BECAUSE they are crimminal?

It reminds me of Doctor Doom and the dicussions about his Sanity. The question posed was it is actually megolamania to believe you can conquer the world and that you are the most brillant/powerful human on the planet...

when you can actually back up those claims?

 

"Admiral Ozzel came out of lightspeed too quickly."
*choking sound*

"Apology accepted Captain Needa."

Kirtan loor fears being blown out of the sky...

Rogue Squadron reveals Needa's family was also imprisoned and/or executed for the incompetance as well....

Tales from the New Republic: A family dies in a bombardment of importance...the captain has his throat crushed...

Ah-ah-ah.

You said ?standard? Imperial policy. Lord Vader, the High Inquisitor Tremayne, and Mme Director Isard do not behave in a ?standard? fashion, because of their positions---all three are free to impose whatever punishments they so desire, because no one will stop them. The deaths of Fleet Admiral Ozzel, Captain Lorth Needa, and Captain Jovahn Vharing are not examples of ?standard? Imperial doctrine.

Rogue Squadron does not indicated that Captain Needa?s family suffered the brunt of the captain?s error---Wedge?s Gamble indicates that the Needas were practically extinct through a variety of misfortunes.

The one time Thrawn was seen executing a man it was to secure the loyalty I think of conscripts among his men by forcing enlisted officers to treat them as equals.

How does executing a conscript who was trained equally with volunteers force officers (who are not enlisted) to treat them equally? If that was the intent of Mr Pieterson?s execution, then the whole exercise was conducted in a ridiculous fashion. If anything, it would not secure the loyalty but rather the hatred of conscripted personnel.

Nay, Gamer #5 lists the execution of Cris Pieterson as an example which demonstrates that the Chiss impose much harsher punishments upon sub-Chiss than upon Chiss---after all, why should one bother oneself with inferior genetic material?

Thrawn proved he was not by allowing the lieutnant responsible to survive after failing to secure the Covert Shroud gambit.

On the contrary, he demonstrated himself to be exactly like his predecessor, in that he executes persons randomly, without regard for any sort of consistency. Mr Mithel and Mr Pieterson were both largely inculpable for their tractor beam failure, yet Mr Pieterson was executed and Mr Mithel promoted.

Your comparison of mild specist feelings is not so much Nazi as it is begging a simple question....

What question are we begging? Hm? How are we using circular logic?

Nay, it is not ?mild specist feeling?; the Chiss have a ?cultured contempt? for sub-Chiss, and consider them ?immature and barbaric? except insomuch as they reflect Chiss standards. This is the same racist behaviour displayed by the English and the Spanish when they came to the New World, the same racist hatred displayed by the National-Socialists when they stormed across Europe in their quest for breathing space.

To believe oneself to be, without exception, superior in all ways to others is the sign of a delusional mind. The Chiss are, for all their vaunted logic and rationality, a most irrational and immature race. Their xenophobia is almost inherently contradictory to their otherwise cold police-state doctrines.

 

I think the real question should be...


"How much wood could a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck would chuck wood?"


But I might be wrong.

 

this is pointless debating, oviously you people have a real problem with the chiss. I mearly started this to see why people always told me to shut up. I got my answer so know you shut Up!!!!!!!!!

 

RingoJuna: A woodchuck could chuck all the wood he could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood.

 

Fair enough.

I stand corrected.

Thrawn is the same sort of psychopath that the rest of the Empire has.

He's an efficent psycho.

However I was under the impression that the man executed was a "Imperial indoctrincated" not a conscript.

 

What do you mean? All personnel in the Imperial Navy serve according to Imperial doctrine, and are therefore "indoctrinated," in a sense.

In the scene in which Pieterson was executed, Grand Admiral Thrawn asks Pieterson's supervisor, Ensign Colclazure, whether or not all conscripts were given the same training as enlistees, as Pieterson's protest of incompetence to deal with the situation brings out the fact that he is a conscript---as are many bridge crewmen aboard the Chimaera.

 

I thought it wasn't the conscript who was executed by their commanding officer who said.

"he's a conscript sir."

Thrawn then questions if that makes them any less worthwhile to train properly.

He looks awkward meaning...he hasn't been training them properly.

Rukh kills him.

Hence thrawn is showing that every man even those forced at blaster point is valuable.

 

No, Thrawn demands of Pieterson an explanation for his failure. Pieterson claims that he was not properly prepared to deal with the situation, at which point Thrawn questions his supervisor, Ensign Colclazure.

Mr Colclazure states that although Pieterson was a conscript, he was given the same training as any enlisted man, at which point Thrawn makes his decision, and Rukh slaughters Pieterson.

It was more a case of Thrawn deciding that if one made an allegation one couldn't support in order to excuse oneself, one deserved to die.

 

That's what I thought Gandolf. You are truly wise.

 

Woooah, what a thread!

I thought my knowledge of SW resources was good but Tears of Palpatine puts it to shame!