Discussion in 'Oceania Discussion Boards' started by JC_Tolkien, Dec 20, 2001.
was it the riddles? (wild guess)
Something to do with the riddles, yes Chansplace, you win;
The original 1937 version of The Hobbit is quite different in describing Gollum and relating how Bilbo gained possession of the ring. The ring was a reward for winning the riddle game, as a "present" to Bilbo. Gollum was upset when he could not give the ring to Bilbo because he could not find it, and showed him out in return. As Tolkien wrote the sequel to The Hobbit, he realized that the ring had to be very special to Gollum and needed to have an evil power over its owner. At first he tried to create elaborate explanations to explain why Gollum would give the ring away, but it was not very believable. He eventually decided to re-write the riddle chapter into the version that is read today. To explain the change, he said that The Hobbit was written from Bilbo's diary, and Tolkien had only just then found out that Bilbo had lied, and had 'fixed' the newer additions. So in the story, Bilbo at first makes no mention of the ring when telling the Dwarves and Gandalf what happened. Then, after the Dwarves have seen him disappear, he tells them the second lie, about 'winning' the ring in the contest, that was in the earlier editions of The Hobbit. It is only in the Prologue to The Lord of the Rings that the "real" story is told for the first time.
(BTW - JP was correct - Legolas means Greenleaf)
what was Gollums main role in The Two Towers?
To guide Frodo and Sam to Mordor.
Correct! 10 points to DG.
OK so its my question now,
who is the elf who rides out to meet the hobbits on the way to rivendell?
You talking movie or books there Graal?
Books only, the movie's all wrong about this particular part.
heres a hint its quite a famous Elven name
well done SFL, I kinda thought this was a bit strange 'cos in one of the other books Glorfindel is an elf who is killed while fighting a balrog in the mountains of shadow
I like Arwen better than Glorfindel (other than shes hot) but Arwen shows a more believable pain and sorrow for Frodo - a male Elf would look silly crying over Frodo after the Flight to the Ford!
Arwen is great! (not enough of her - but she will be back )
ok, here's my question:
What's in my pocket?
ok, seriously now...
What is the name of the swords that Bilbo, Thorin and Gandalf find?
(I want all three names used for Thorin's sword, and all three names for Gandalfs, and just the one name for Bilbo's.)
That's 7 questions, cheat!
The pockets question: Holes to keep yourself amused!
The swords question: Sting, glamdring and anduril? (not sure about the last one)
And galadriel is so much hotter than Arwen!!
lol @ JP (you can talk) and no its not sevel questions as they are not all seperate - the question is:
"what are the names of the swords" (but i explained so people would be more educated as to what i want.
so far we have:
the person to name the last name will win (so everyone helps each other - slightly easier)
2 more for Gandalf's sword
3 for Thorin's sword
Glamdring, foe hammer.
orcrist, goblin cleaver
Gandalf: Glamdring, Foe-Hammer,
Thorin: Orcist, Goblin-Cleaver,
1 more name for Gandalf's sword
1 more name for Thorin's sword
picky picky picky!
Biter and beater!
and my question is...
what does "orthanc" mean?
Orthanc or Orthanic?
Orthanc = Mount Fang (elvish) / Cunning Mind (human).
damn you JP grrr
well done - JP's answer is correct,
JP - your "rightful" turn this time
I will await Graal's confirmation before proceeding.
yeah close enough, not human, more rohirim(sp?) but close enough
What does "J.R.R." stand for?