CT Top Ten lies told in the OT

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  1. DarthGentilian Jedi Padawan

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    TOP TEN LIES TOLD IN THE OT

    10) Uh...had a slight weapons malfunction. But, uh, everything's perfectly all right now. We're fine. We're all fine here, now, thank you.

    9) Captain, being held by you isn't quite enough to get me excited.

    8) Lord Vader, what about Leia and the Wookiee? They must never again leave this city.

    7) It's the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs.

    6) I don't know what you're talking about. I am a member of the Imperial Senate on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan.

    5) These aren?t the droids you?re looking for.

    4) But what if this Obi-Wan comes looking for him? He won't. I don't think he exists anymore. He died about the same time as your father.

    3) We intercepted no transmissions. This is a consular ship. We're on a diplomatic miss? *ack*

    2) Dantooine. They're on Dantooine.

    . . . and the Number One lie told in the OT:

    1) A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine until he turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi knights. He betrayed and murdered your father.
  2. halibut Chosen One

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    Only imperial stormtroopers are so precise
  3. CT-867-5309 Force Ghost

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    Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster at your side.
  4. Drewdude91 Jedi Grand Master

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    "By now you must know your father can never be turned from the Dark Side. So will it be with you" - Palpatine, ROTJ

    "Soon I'll be dead, and you with me" - Luke Skywalker, ROTJ

    "You can destroy the Emperor. He has foreseen this. It is your destiny" - Darth Vader, ESB
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  5. EHT New Films Manager

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    Do we know this is actually a lie?

    This may be kind of an overstatement, but is Obi-Wan really lying?

    I think Han believed this when he said it... until he started seeing some of the stuff that Obi-Wan, Darth Vader, and (later) Luke could do using the Force.

    I think Palpatine and Luke both believed what they were saying here. Vader may or may not have believed his line, but it was more of a sales pitch that an outright lie.
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  6. CT-867-5309 Force Ghost

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  7. EHT New Films Manager

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    Thanks! There are some great examples in here, I just wanted to point out on those why they may not be actual lies... open to discussion though. :p
  8. firesaber Jedi Master

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    She was, and she was, was she not. The side trip, and beaming of the plans notwithstanding...[face_batting]
  9. DarthGentilian Jedi Padawan

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    She was PART of the REBEL ALLIANCE and a TRAITOR. TAKE HER AWAY!
  10. DarthGentilian Jedi Padawan

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    eht, as the OP on this thread, I agree with ALL of your comments except this one. Here is what the ANH script has to say about this line:

    HAN: Han Solo. I'm captain of the Millennium Falcon. Chewie here tells
    me you're looking for passage to the Alderaan system.

    BEN: Yes, indeed. If it's a fast ship.

    HAN: Fast ship? You've never heard of the Millennium Falcon?

    BEN: Should I have?

    HAN: It's the ship that made the Kessel run in less than twelve
    parsecs!

    Ben reacts to Solo's stupid attempt to impress them with
    obvious misinformation.
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  11. EHT New Films Manager

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    Yes, I think that note ("Ben reacts to Solo's stupid attempt to impress them with
    obvious misinformation") is in the Annotated Screenplays too. But I wondered why it says that, and whether this being obvious misinformation really comes across that way in the film itself. It seemed like bragging to me, but not really a lie... so I remember being a little surprised when I read that in the book (Annotated Screenplays).
  12. halibut Chosen One

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    "Tell Jabba I've got the money."

    "Leia... do you remember your mother? Your real mother?
    Just a little bit"
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  13. Lars_Muul Chosen One

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    "But I was going to Tosche Station to pick up some power converters!"





    Do power converters charge $500 a night?
    /LM
  14. Drewdude91 Jedi Grand Master

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    "Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough".

    And I know this is PT, but it's the biggest lie of the entire Saga IMO: "I love Democracy. I love the Republic. The power you give me, I will lay down when this crisis has abated"
  15. hanshotfirst87 Jedi Knight

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    I think we can all agree Obi-Wan was basically the Jon Lovitz of this galaxy when it came to lying.
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  16. EHT New Films Manager

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    Agreed with both of these, especially the second one. It being from the PT was the only thing that stopped me from posting it myself. :p

    Regarding the first one, I think Obi-Wan could have made it potentially true by saying "Your father would have (or should have) wanted you to have this when you were old enough". Chances are, if things had gone differently with Anakin, he would have wanted his son to receive his lightsaber. But just adding that distinction could have opened up another bunch of questions from Luke that Obi-Wan wasn't ready to deal with yet.

  17. ForceJumpAnakin Force Ghost

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    I was just on my way to see Jabba.
  18. Arawn_Fenn Chosen One

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    Just ask his wife, Morgan Fairchild!
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  19. Drewdude91 Jedi Grand Master

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    This thread has made me realize that an overarching theme of the saga is lies. In the PT, it was about Palpatine's lies and deception and in the OT, it was the lies to Luke
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  20. EHT New Films Manager

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    "What I told you was true, from a certain point of view." :p
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  21. WookieePox Jedi Padawan

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    I never realized this before, but after seeing the list I totally agree. Perhaps the list of things Obi-Wan said that are true would be a lot shorter?[face_thinking]
  22. EHT New Films Manager

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    Win.
  23. hanshotfirst87 Jedi Knight

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    Also Han was promised rewards and got what looked like really big legos, so the might be a lie too, unless legos are an accepted form of currency in the Empire.
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  24. Drewdude91 Jedi Grand Master

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  25. DarthIktomi Jedi Master

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    That's technically true: Only Imperial stormtroopers are exactly that precise!
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