Torture throughout the Saga

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  1. FogeyKenobi Jedi Knight

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    Is there any correlation between the torture of Shmi Skywalker at the hands of the Tusken raiders and the subsequent use of this activity by Vader in ANH (Leia)and ESB (Han). It would seem that Anakin would be loathe to use these types of tactics after the death of his mother.

    Just a thought as I watched AOTC last night.
  2. Cow_Girl Chapter Rep Niagara ON, CA

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    I think it would have to do with what point Anakin was at in his life. What I mean by that is, when his mother died in his arms, he was still human, While he acted out of anger, I think he honestly did regret what he had done.This might have been his first real example of death, It must have been ten times worse since it was someone so close to him, and there was nothing that he could have done to prevent it. When Anakin turned to the Darkside, and became Darth Vader

    Hes more Machine than man now, twisted and evil

    How much of the Orginal Anakin was actually left? He stood there and watched as an entire planet was blown to pieces, watched as thousands were killed, and didn't seem bothered at all. By the time all this had happened, I would think that Vader had seen and done so many terrible things, that it really didn't bother him at all.
  3. DarthKarde Jedi Grand Master

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    I think that at this point Darth Vader had locked all the memories from his days as Anakin at the very back of his mind. They would have been a weakness for him.
  4. Ashton_Knight Jedi Padawan

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    It's like DarthKarde said, Anakin is essnetially "gone". When Han gets zapped with electricity on Bespin and Leig gets interrogated on the Death Star, Vader's wearing the pants, so to speak.
  5. Jedi_Master201 Jedi Grand Master

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    Or perhaps he remembers, which is precisely why he does it - his way of getting revenge. He's probably thinking, "Now it's my turn."
  6. MasterTravis Jedi Padawan

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    he tortured Han in ESB was done to get Luke's attention, the same way the torture of shami got his very own attention in AOTC

    Leia was being tortured to get the location of the Rebel's hiddin base,

    come on people this isn't that hard
  7. Aunecah_Skywalker Jedi Grand Master

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    Well, there could also be the possibility that Vader is acting precisely as Anakin would not have wanted to act because he wants to prove (to himself) that he isn't the same person (with the same weaknesses?) anymore. That happens sometimes.

    Aunecah
  8. senseless_apprentice Jedi Knight

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    Darth Vader is completly turned to the Darkside in ANH.

    He stands by as a planet is destroyed

    He kills Obi

    He tortures his daughter

    He tries to kill his son

    These aren't the actions of Anakin, only when he met his son did he start to remember.

  9. FogeyKenobi Jedi Knight

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    So it would seem that the torture/death of Shmi started Anakin down the darkside path and then it was the torture/imminent death of his son that turned him back...

    From a certain point of view of course.
  10. Jedi_Master201 Jedi Grand Master

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  11. Aunecah_Skywalker Jedi Grand Master

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    senseless_apprentice: If you were referring to my post: Yes, I am quite aware that he is completely turned to the Dark Side in EpIV. However, that does not mean that Vader simply forgets everything that happened in the previous twenty+ years of his life.

    Aunecah
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