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Total Double Standard.

Discussion in 'Communications' started by citizen-tom, Nov 3, 2002.

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  1. citizen-tom

    citizen-tom Jedi Knight star 5

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    Okay, bound by the limitations not known to WattoWatta's superhuman abilities, I won't be able to turn this into War and Peace and/or include words that will make JCers feel intellectually inferior or crash the server of dictionary.com.

    Ahem...

    That being said I just want to lay out a pretty blatant double standard and kick the horse firm in the arse.

    LMM, who was told something about "if it ever happens again..." or whatever stuff, was a jerk again. (See saltys thread)

    The administration says, and I quote it?s not as serious for a regular user or VIP to make some mild trouble"

    While this is the case for LMM, for another VIP it was different. He was held to a higher standard on the TFN/FF boards

    He got a demotion because, and I quote His general lack of tact and respect in posting

    Or officially "You have been permanently demoted and removed from the City Rep forum as of 11 PM EST for the total lack of respect and attitude you showed users in this thread. You were warned that if you messed up again your probation would be over and you would be permanently demoted."

    Drat, that sounds so similar!

    LMM is still a VIP, sadly for this guy, who unlike LMM (in my opinion.....yada yada, "the practice" is on and I don't want to get called on for speculation) is a cool dude, the story is not the same. His colors are lost [sandlot]forever foreVER FOREVER.[/sandlot].

    Difference?





    EDIT--n/m about that last point, I'm a paranoid Idiot. Just found the thread.

    Will the administration please not lock this till its discussed, thanx.
     
  2. Jedi_Nailbiter

    Jedi_Nailbiter Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Dude, your back!


    Uhm, remember your post about KW? I have a feeling this thread has a similar fate.
     
  3. citizen-tom

    citizen-tom Jedi Knight star 5

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    Lord Bane--That's good to know, I have no doubt in you wanting to come to a soulution in such buisness. Though I hope this time something is actually done after discussion.


    Gandolf-- Sweet God! An excellent solution in less than 10 minutes. That's one degree of seperation. That's buisness with dotnet.
     
  4. Lord Bane

    Lord Bane Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    We are doing something about this, rest assured.
     
  5. Gandalf the Grey

    Gandalf the Grey Jedi Knight star 6

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    He has been / is being demoted to regular user.
     
  6. Jedi_Nailbiter

    Jedi_Nailbiter Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I don't understand. Why does he continue to make banners for you guys?
     
  7. citizen-tom

    citizen-tom Jedi Knight star 5

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    Alright! G'night JC.
     
  8. Gandalf the Grey

    Gandalf the Grey Jedi Knight star 6

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    Because some people like his banners. Some of those people who like his banners are responsible for the graphics of this site. So they tend to choose his banners, because his banners appeal to their sense of taste.
     
  9. Lord Bane

    Lord Bane Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I have demoted him. This may only be temporary, as discussion goes on. But being a VIP on the JC in his capacity reflects on both Staff and the JC Administration. He has repeatedly misrepresented both and this is what happens.

    Please - if you have a problem keep it civil or if you can't, PM me. I can take hostility over PM but I won't tolerate it in Communications.

    Thanks in advance for understanding.
     
  10. FateNaberrie

    FateNaberrie Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Dude, your back!


    What about his back?


    Friendly, neighborhood grammar nazi.
     
  11. Jedi_Nailbiter

    Jedi_Nailbiter Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Dammit fate, I swear you're following me... :p

    You know what I meant.
     
  12. FateNaberrie

    FateNaberrie Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Wherever there is an offense against grammar, she is there. ;)

     
  13. DarthAttorney

    DarthAttorney Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Please stay on topic, this isn't JCC.

    citizen-tom: can you please reveal who the other VIP is that you mention in your next post? I think it's impossible to compare and contrast 2 seperate cases when you don't tell us who the 2nd case was.

    Thanks

    :)
     
  14. Jobo

    Jobo Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I assume he means PreacherBoy.
    _jOBO
     
  15. AmazingB

    AmazingB Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    He means BYOB_Kenobi.

    Amazing.
     
  16. Bria

    Bria Manager Emeritus, -MNFF Council star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't think so, as he said City Rep. I have a feeling I know who he is talking about but I could be wrong.
     
  17. FateNaberrie

    FateNaberrie Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    citizen-tom: can you please reveal who the other VIP is that you mention in your next post? I think it's impossible to compare and contrast 2 seperate cases when you don't tell us who the 2nd case was.


    I have a feeling that he didn't want to widely reveal this name since he pointedly avoided using it throughout his post. I don't think asking him is going to make him up and decide to use it.


    (And now that I've made an on-topic post, can I say that it's "separate" ? :p)
     
  18. Rox

    Rox Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I believe he is talking about BYOB_Kenobi. That is a copy of the personal message I sent to inform him of his demotion. Also in the future keep Private Messages exactly that, private. I never gave you permission to post that.

    EDIT: I am also a believer that if you are a VIP then you are held to a higher standard just like the Moderating Staff. Especially a member of TFN's staff.
     
  19. Bria

    Bria Manager Emeritus, -MNFF Council star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    So I'm not the only one thinking that then.

    The thing of it is, FanForce is connected with the JC, but it is a seperate entity. The City Reps, RSAs, and GSA's deal with fans in the real world, vs stuff that is strictly on the boards or staff related. That could explain why the punishment that is handed out varies between the two.
     
  20. FateNaberrie

    FateNaberrie Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Also in the future keep Private Messages exactly that, private. I never gave you permission to post that.


    Once you send any kind of correspondence, it becomes the property of the recipient, and it is up to them to release it. So if BYOB told him he could post it, then he has every right to.
     
  21. DarthAttorney

    DarthAttorney Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Fate: I hardly think it's fair to "out" one user to shame them even more and try not to step on the toes of the other because they're friends or whatever. He wanted to have this seriously discussed, he should have laid it all out to begin with.

    And I reverse he write to misspell and take out of pretext any words which I desire ;)


    As Bria mentioned, this seems to be no more than a disparity(sp? :p ) between the JC and FF treatment of different cases. No more.
     
  22. FateNaberrie

    FateNaberrie Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Touché.
     
  23. Porkins in a Speedo

    Porkins in a Speedo Jedi Knight star 5

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    hasn't this issue already been covered in another thread?
     
  24. FateNaberrie

    FateNaberrie Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    That thread was locked at the owner's request, and wasn't discussed to death as every subject must be here at JC Communications.
     
  25. Master Salty

    Master Salty Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    That would be correct. I had my thread locked once I felt the point had been made.
     
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