it just a statement of fact, and the proof is all over this board. Get over it. And Duckman, hopefully you see by Shelley's last response to your post that some people believe what they want to believe. Even the most obvious points, things gushers, bashers, and indiferents take for granted, cant be accepted by the Shelley's of the world because they interfere with the construct of "reality" these people have created(i knew i could tie in The Matrix somehow). Which is why its so arduous having to wade through book-length responses from Shelley and others who are so ardent, so desperate in their defence of this construct. Oh, btw, The Phantom Menace was a dismal failure in every way that matters to me. The box office was a given from day one, and the only surprise (at least until it opened and everyone actually saw the "movie) was that it didnt overtake Titanic.