"Traitor," by Matthew Woodring Stover [Del Ray, 2002]

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"Traitor" by Matthew Woodring Stover [Del Ray, 2002]

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10 (Excellent) 106 vote(s) 69.7%
9 16 vote(s) 10.5%
8 5 vote(s) 3.3%
7 4 vote(s) 2.6%
6 (Average) 3 vote(s) 2.0%
5 (Average) 3 vote(s) 2.0%
4 2 vote(s) 1.3%
3 3 vote(s) 2.0%
2 0 vote(s) 0.0%
1 (Poor) 10 vote(s) 6.6%
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  1. sith-22 Jedi Master

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    Apr 6, 2005
    star 4
    Great book. Ganner is the man. Vergere got annoying after awhile. And i never have been a big fan of Jacen, but he was still cool in this. Best NJO IMO.
  2. P_F_A_F_F Jedi Knight

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    May 26, 2005
    star 1
    10, I loved this book. Even before I read this book I always had a view of the Force similar to Vergere's, so it was nice to hear it in book form. One of my favorite SW and NJO books
  3. CorranFan9 Jedi Padawan

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    Jun 9, 2005
    I AM 14 AND HAVE READ BOTH DANTE'S INFERNO AND TRAITOR AND FIND THE SIMILARITIES UHHMM...VERY SIMILAR.
  4. CorranFan9 Jedi Padawan

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    Jun 9, 2005
  5. QuiGon-Z Jedi Knight

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    Jul 28, 2003
    star 1
    I LOVED this book, but it gets a 9. I mean, Vergere just seems too incredible plus Ganner sort of materialized. Vergere seems to make everything happen and gets everything she wants done and that sort of thing. I loved Jacen's growth and the philosophical quotes are awesome, I'll always remember this book. I loved the pretend hero suddenly destroying hundreds of Warriors and becoming something near a god to them in the future...
  6. Dark_Jedi_Kenobi Manager Emeritus

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    Oct 3, 2004
    star 5
    10. A great book and one of my favorite NJO's.
  7. Jedimaster89 Jedi Knight

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    Aug 21, 2005
    star 1
    I thought Traitor was one of the better books than the others, yet again so was Desiny's way. I sort of got confused, but I still got it anyway. I still liked it just by listening to it by audio cd.

    Peace and Force
  8. Zebra3 Force Ghost

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    Aug 28, 2004
    star 5
    I actually hated this book. Endless torture scenes disgust me.
  9. Inara Force Ghost

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    Aug 30, 2005
    star 4
    For the first time in the NJO, Jacen actually has a personality that doesn't resemble that of a whiny tree-hugger brat.

    The philosophies brought up in this novel brought SW writing to a whole new level.

  10. Darth_adam Jedi Padawan

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    Sep 2, 2005
    My favorite partin this book is when jacen takes control of the amiphastaffs and used the to inpale a vong after he threw him over his shoulder. then preceded to make a staff armor.
  11. Jacen-Vader Jedi Knight

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    Nov 6, 2005
    star 1
    10. This book is awesome, is one of the best book of starwars.
  12. LordRevan19 Force Ghost

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    Mar 26, 2005
    star 4
    10/10 Of course.

    Best NJO book. Mattew Stover is an awesome author.

    Good Stuff
  13. Figureman2 Force Ghost

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    Jul 15, 2005
    star 1
    This book gets a 10. Not only one of the best Star Wars books I've ever read, this is one of the better books I've ever read, period.
  14. Admiral_Chiss Jedi Knight

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    Aug 27, 2005
    star 2
    Three word that bring this book from good to excelent

    "none shall pass"

    Superb
  15. boady22 Force Ghost

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    Mar 24, 2003
    star 2



    This was a good book. I didn't care much for Verge but otherwise it was a good otello. Ganner is about the best charater to come out of the NJO and I was sad to see him depart, but hey every hero has his/hers end and Ganner's was good.

    Well done Stover. 9
  16. FloppyMaN Jedi Master

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    Dec 8, 2005
    star 4
    I gave it a 6. Not a huge fan of Jacen and it kinda got a little boring at times
  17. Corellian_Cutie Jedi Master

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    Dec 13, 2005
    star 4
    This was my least faveorite NJO book...don't really know why...i never really cared for vergere (im probably the only person who feels that way in the world)
  18. Jedi Vince Jedi Master

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    Aug 2, 1999
    star 3
    I give this book a 9.
    Matt Stover is one of my favorite Star Wars authors -- although I don't feel that's saying too much.
    Structurally, Traitor -- like Stover's Star Wars stuff -- is sound. He also has great instincts for sensing the timing of action and highlighting the excitement.
    However ... I hate when he decides to simply change tenses out of nowhere -- it's completely distracting.
    Don't get me wrong ... it's cool to think outside the box, but every artist needs a frame in which to work. In trying to be creative and create intimacy, I feel Stover strips his work of its sense of time and place.
    That's already a big problem for him (as well as most modern authors, to be fair), because his metaphors are so heavy. Everything he describes is LIKE something else; this technique is the first red flag that signifies the writer isn't special. Doing this automatically takes the reader away from the story to think of the objects in the metaphor.
    A great writer commands the language and can see the another level in stories: Use dynamic words, create imagery -- let the reader FEEL the story.
    This is the most ironic criticism of the book since the work is an obvious homage to Divine Comedy (which in itself is VERY admirable); and Dante is along with Shakespeare is the greatest craftsman ever to write.
    I don't expect any writer to rival those men, but one should always strive to be great.
    I also don't read Star Wars books for their elagance -- I read them for their excitement, and this book was fun and very thought provoking. Jacen is a cool "hero", Vergere works great as a foil to Yoda, and greatly expands George Lucas' universe; and Ganner's journey was fantastic.
    After reading this, I am eager to read Shatterpoint, but I just picked up The Swarm War, and Clone Wars Volume 7, so I have my work cut out for me.
    Plus, I'm finishing my first fan-fic, which I hope everyone reads.
    Overall ... bravo to Stover, who shows that Star Wars novels can be somewhat profound.
  19. Jedi_Johnson Force Ghost

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    Apr 6, 2002
    star 5
    In all honesty this is probably my favorite NJO book. Whether you agree with Vergere and then Jacen's view of the Force you have to admit that it is interesting.

    Stover made this book interesting and to be honest it almost didn't feel like Star Wars at the beginning. This may have been intended as a filler book between hardcovers, but I do think it might be one of the best if not the best NJO books.
  20. killthekilliks Jedi Knight

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    Dec 22, 2005
    star 1
    10 I love this book...it's my favorite from the NJO series
  21. ConservativeSoldier Jedi Knight

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    Oct 1, 2005
    star 3
    10. One of the best Star Wars novels in existence.
  22. Monopoker Jedi Padawan

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    Feb 25, 2006
    I don't personally agree with the philosophy presented but DAMN this was an amazing book. Most quotable SW book I've read with some passages that simply sent chills down my spine. (The last page is SO well written.) If this isn't my favorite Star Wars novel it's defiantly in the top 5. After some great stuff in SbS this was a more than worthy follow-up (Nothing against Dark Journey, but it had its ups and downs whereas this book simply shocked me with its excellence). Can't wait to read DW and UF now.

    I would have liked this book if it hadn't been put in the Star Wars Universe.

    10/10
  23. Yodas-evil-twin Jedi Grand Master

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    Jun 3, 2005
    star 5
    10/10.

    I ******* love this book. Gogin to have to get a second copy soon.
  24. RK_Striker_JK_5 Force Ghost

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    Jul 2, 2003
    star 7
    I loathe this book in ways no language yet conceived can convey. Confusingly written and espouses a philosophy totally anathema to my entire way of thinking. Vergere, as a character, is a bad character. And the dance is all and dance all is... dance fever?

    If possible, negative Pi.
  25. Siolo_Anoon Jedi Padawan

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    Nov 22, 2005
    Question: WHAT WAS THAT?!
    Answer: That was Vergere... so what am I? I am very impressed.

    I thought it was incredible and exciting to be lead through the next installment of NJO by following a single character. It took great story telling to keep my attention on a single aspect of the vast and epic goings ons of the war and turmiol while so many great characters are essentially setting on the sidelines for this one. Not only did it just keep my attention, but I didn't want to leave Jacen's side for a second, much less a page or chapter. Now I find myself reading faster to get to the Jacen chapters in the following books!

    Great job by Stover in bringing Jacen Solo into his own, also by bringing some heady philosophy into print. Many of the fans read between the lines throughout the films and the expanded universe, with Traitor, we didn't have to. Thanks Matt!
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