Transformers Discussion Thread (Transformers: Dark of the Moon)

I read your review. What's so stupid about Megatron wanting peace?

 

Wow, small world. But you may want to HTR that.

Seriously, dude? The big finale of the Transformers trilogy, and it's just like

Megatron: Woah, wait a minute, dude. I know I'm like the big ruthless, pure-evil villain, but screw it, I just want peace now, cool.

Optimus: Cool, Broseph. See ya back on Cybertron.

*Fist-bump.*

I would think that Michael Bay especially would have hated this. "Let's just have them blow each other up!

Slimy!

 

So does anyone know who was finally chosen to voice Shockwave?

 

I don't know, but the small bit of curiosity went out the window, when I saw that Wheelie the Megan Fox's leg humping pervbot was in this one too.

 

From what I've read Shockwave only has like 5 lines in the movie, and will be voiced by Welker. So any hope that the live action movie Shockwave will have anything to do with the Comic or Cartoon version is pretty much dead.

Pretty much just the generic bad guy of the movie.

Very disappointed. A comic accurate movie version of Shockwave would have made a superb villain.

 

If there's anything that Bay's Transformers movies can not be accused of, it's being faithful to the Transformers cartoons or comics. So, why start now?

 

No Arcee, huh? So goes the final nail in Bay's coffin. **** Bayformers!!!

 

They were SUPPOSED to be Mirage and Wheeljack....but they wee changed to "Dino" and "Que".


God I dislike Michael Bay so much.

 

just got back from seeing it down here in melbourne

whilst i believe it was better than revenge of the fallen, some of the dialogue (especially between sam and carly) reminded me of some moments in the star wars prequels. however, i was dissapointed with the lack of screentime for shockwave....but most of all, was stunned with sentinel prime joining the decepticons, and killing ironhide

 

"¿Que que?", indeed.

I was briefly considering spending $10 and several valuable neurons to see this on a lazy Saturday morning show. But Quest's review here and several others I've read still don't instill the slightest bit of worth to that idea. Maybe watching Green Lantern might be a more enjoyable experience if they were showing it in my neck of the woods (and that seems to be very unlikely now; for some reason the major local theater chain doesn't seem to be interested in showing it...ever).

 

So disappointing that Shockwave got the screw. Basically just the generic villain. I had orginally thought Burton didn't take the role because perhaps he was tired of it, but from what I've read he pretty much figured it was a waste of time since he didn't have many lines, and wouldn't have gotten payed much for it anyway. He doesn't like the movie versions much either. I was getting super excited that a comic inspired version of Shockwave would have made it into the film. Which was stupid of me since this is Michael Bay's Transformers we're talking about.

As for the surprise villain....I think people have been calling that one for a while. But yeah I guess the bigger surpise is that Bay didn't spoil it out right.

Still going to see it regardless, but in the same way I did ROTS. Want to see how it ends, and then be glad it's over.

Also...does Cullen make his cameo in this? I remember they had been talking about giving him a scene. Would have been awesome if they had done a scene where somebody comes up to Prime in cab form. The window lowers and it's Cullen in a cowboy hat talking like Ironhide.

 

"Que" pronounced...."Q"

[image=http://www.007museum.com/q-penn-parker.jpg]
Even though we all know he is really Wheeljack.
[image=http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/103/1/7/Alternator_Wheeljack_by_Dan_the_artguy.jpg]
Yes, I like the Mustang Alternator Wheeljack better...love the angular shape of his head as compared to G1.
Just wish they would have made his racing stripes green and red.

As for "Dino"....it was supposed to be Mirage. But since Michael Bay had to kiss Ferrari's derriere to include it, they named it after Alfredo Ferrari.

Despite the fact that the character in the novel is so obviously Mirage. Both Starscream and Soundwave mock him for prefering to go invisible than to actually fight.

 

Dripping, sarcastic review

Edit: I have to add this.

Roger Ebert gave the film one out of four stars, calling it "a visually ugly film with an incoherent plot, wooden characters and inane dialog. It provided me with one of the more unpleasant experiences I've had at the movies."

 

Brad Jones and Spoony's reviews of Transformers 3 are must-see, if you were disappointed by it.

They're convinced me not to watch it.

 

I'd venture to guess that this is probably it for Shia. He had his break out role in Holes. Dirturbia gave him some more cred. Then he had Transformers.

He had a nice little streak. However Transformers 2, although a money maker, was a critical disaster. Wall Street 2 was his chance at more postive critical cred which you know, you should have as a actor. Look at Nick Cage for example, he'll do 5 crappy movie and enjoy it, then do one critically acclaimed movie and some how stay on the A list.

Plus WS 2 was a sequel to a pretty good movie. However that failed and whatever he could have gained from that was lost.

Now he has TF3. Which will no doubt be a money maker. Probably making the same as before. Why? Because people are going to want to see if Bay screwed up again, and if he does they're are going to want to see it anyway(probably multiple viewings) so they can enjoy hating it. Still, this will be Shia's last Blockbuster. He was safe while the series lasted, but now it's at an end. Nobody really likes him anyway. Comes off as way to annoying. Though even I'll give him credit for being some what entertaining. He plays a good Shia Lebeouf I'll tell you that much.

I fear this will be it for poor Shia. No longer in high demand.

 

I had fun watching this movie. Better than the last two, the robots were more fun, Sentinel Prime's betrayal was super unexpected, and the action was top-notch. Has some of the same problems the other ones had, but overall was more fun and more funny. Certain parts did drag a bit though.

 

This movie is gonna make $300+ million domestic. Shia will be fine dude. I think you're overestimating how much reviews matter. In the end it's all about the buck.

 

Surprisingly, I really liked it. It's easily the strongest of the three movies in pretty much all respects. I really enjoyed how they actually made Sam a proactive character that makes things happen rather than someone things happen to. That's a key difference that actually has Sam working as the main character, something the previous two movies sorely lacked. I also thought it was a nice touch that the movie is considerably darker than what came before- it really feels like an apocalypse rather than just battles. The line We will kill them all exploited the emotional tone of the middle part of the film quite well.

As for its critical reception, I wonder how much it comes from people deciding to hate the movie before they saw it. That's not exactly an unreasonable position, considering how awful the second one was, but I do think this movie deserves a much higher score on RT.

 

Take it like this if you enjoyed it then keep on enjoying it. Me I enjoyed it I had a fun time. I paid to see a big summer movie I got a big summer movie. I walked out happy.

 

I really don't see him being in high demand anymore. Atleast for a while. Don't get me wrong, I think he'll still make movies. Just nobody will watch them.

and on another point, is it really true that these movies had to have a huge human factor in order to have audience appeal? I mean I guess you had to have live human actors to care about, but did the movie have to be about them?


I understand the point the writers and Bay made about the need for human character we could connect with, but seems to me that if you actually developed the Tranformers the same connection would have been made. Instead they're just big toys on screen, save for Optimus I guess. But look at Megs. A horrible villain with no characterisation at all who's only purpose is to let the audience know that the big grey ugly dude is the Decepticon leader. There was no dinamic rivalry between Prime and Megs like in the source material. Megs is just there. There because in Transformers lore Megatron is the leader of the Decepticons, he's there for no other reason. Even when the writers decided to give Megs and Starscream some scenes reminiscent of their comic and cartoon version in ROTF, it served no purpose other than a nod to fans. Starscream never once betrayed Megatron. He doesn't show any desire to rule. This is the same decepticon that if Megatron were to bend down to tie his shoe(if he had them obviously) Starscream would go,"MEgatron has fallen, I'm the leader of the Decepticons now." Any bits of characterisation that show some vague familiarity to their source material counterparts is nothing more than nods, because basically pretty much every Transformer in this movie, save for Optimus and Bumblebee, aren't characters. They're just toys that shoot things.

Which brings me back to Shockwave. So disappointing. Most people remember Shocks from his cartoon version. If you were a bigger fan you'd know him from his comic version as well. A version far superior to that of the cartoon. In the cartoon he was a loyal follower of Megatron, and decepticon of logic given life by the voice of Corey Burton. Who's voice is the spirit of Shockwave just as Cullen and Welker are the spirits of their characters. In the comic his only loyalty was to logic, atleast his warped version of it. In the comics it was only logical that Shockwave rule the decepticons, because how could logic allow it any other way. A pretty bad ass character, and a great villain period, not just in Transformers. That version of him on screen would have wiped away anyone's bad feelings of the Transformers, espeically the villains, getting a bad wrap. All you would have needed to remember was that Shockwave was pretty cool in that movie. Instead he's on screen perhaps 10 minutes, has five lines, and save for some vague look has no connection at all to the actual Shockwave.

I hope if there is ever a reboot they actually make movies about Transformers. Kinda sad either way since I doubt Cullen would reprise his role again. I guess for the most part he got a better part in the movies then the rest of them anyway. So atleast we got to see Cullen bring Prime to life on the big screen, and kick some ass while doing it. To bad everything else about these movies has to suck.