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Transformers Discussion Thread (Transformers: Dark of the Moon)

Discussion in 'Archive: Your Jedi Council Community' started by Jedi_Master_Conor, Apr 24, 2006.

  1. solo77

    solo77 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    That can't be Prime, that is a totally different type of truck. Prime has a flat front with no nose, the complete opposite to that picture. I just can't see that truck working.

    And from the test footage of the transformations i've seen I don't beleive it!
     
  2. Eeth-my-Koth

    Eeth-my-Koth Jedi Grand Master star 9

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    May 25, 2001
    That test footage you saw was fan made and/or submission for a job on the film.
     
  3. kenwastinger

    kenwastinger Jedi Master star 5

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    Yeah, the blue and white prime that people have seen is rubbish. This is very likely Prime, and 100% craptastic.
     
  4. solo77

    solo77 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well if that is him then Craptastic is certainly the word for it!

    :(

    [face_worried]

    :_|
     
  5. FatBurt

    FatBurt Sex Scarecrow Vanquisher star 6

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    Jul 21, 2003
    I thought the Blue and White "Prime" would be Ultra Magnus.



    Do we have any idea on the Transformers to be used in the movie yet?
     
  6. Tabula Rasa

    Tabula Rasa Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The truck pic is a major letdown, I hope it's not Prime, though it looks like it is.
     
  7. Jon_Goodfellow

    Jon_Goodfellow Jedi Knight star 5

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    Other than Megatron, Optimus, and Bumblebee, the list of characters is only semi-official.

    It doesn't matter anyway. Even if they used all the familiar characters, they'd be re-designed to the point of being totally unrecognisable anyway. :rolleyes:



    Go n-ithe an cat thú, is go n-ithe an diabhal an cat.
     
  8. Eeth-my-Koth

    Eeth-my-Koth Jedi Grand Master star 9

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    Isn't Soundwave a Helicoptor now?
     
  9. Grand_Admiral_Grant

    Grand_Admiral_Grant Ex-Mod star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    If that truck really is Prime, then this really sucks. I was hoping this movie would give me the same vibe as the cartoon, but with that Prime, it aint gonna happen.
     
  10. Jon_Goodfellow

    Jon_Goodfellow Jedi Knight star 5

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    Mar 2, 2006
    Aye.

    Now Blaster's going to transform into the back end of a Nissan Skyline straight out of Import Tuner.




    Go n-ithe an cat thú, is go n-ithe an diabhal an cat.
     
  11. ApolloSmileGirl

    ApolloSmileGirl Jedi Knight star 8

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    Jun 18, 2004
    I'm pretty dissapointed in the production thus far, especially since Spelbergo and Bay swore it was going to completely center on gen-1 characters and their transformed styles.

    Hopefully it won't suck, but yeah for no Bernie Mac.
     
  12. Jon_Goodfellow

    Jon_Goodfellow Jedi Knight star 5

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    Mar 2, 2006
    This film will both suck AND blow.



    Go n-ithe an cat thú, is go n-ithe an diabhal an cat.
     
  13. Underpaid_Soldier

    Underpaid_Soldier Jedi Youngling star 3

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    To my knowledge, they never swore that the characters in these films would be 100% replicas of G1. For example, everyone knows Soundwave is not going to be a cassette player, simply because it'll look so awful and goofy looking seeing this 4-story machine transform into a handheld eletronic. Unless of course, they make Soundwave a 4-foot midget.

    As long as they keep the spirit of G1 in the film, and do not make too many drastic changes, I'll be happy (Transfan here). It'll be quite boring to see an EXACT story and an EXACT transformation of the G1 cartoon into live-action. This way, they'll keep most of what made G1 great, but have a slightly different story and twist.


    Note: They may also be restricted in some areas on what vehicles they can use, for example, Bumblebee WILL NOT be a Volkswagon Beetle, because VW said "no".
     
  14. ApolloSmileGirl

    ApolloSmileGirl Jedi Knight star 8

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    Soundwave is the only change that does make sense, and I'll concede on Bumbleebee because apparantly, VW won't give the permission to use the Beetle style. But that's it.

    There's no reason that they have to make any other changes, based on current pop culture styles, with the exception of maybe the Dinobots. When believability is brought up, we're talking about giant robots, from another planet fight on earth, so I don't think the size physics really matter very much. While we're on that, why the hell is Scorponok in the movie to begin with?
     
  15. Eeth-my-Koth

    Eeth-my-Koth Jedi Grand Master star 9

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    May 25, 2001
    VW are stupid for saying no.
    If the movie kicks any ass there will be a few idiots that would buy the car just to have bumblebee.
     
  16. solo77

    solo77 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I did not think this about 2 months agio, however now I am strating to seriously doubt the quality of the product that is going to be seen :(
     
  17. Underpaid_Soldier

    Underpaid_Soldier Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I agree that the characters should retain their true alternate form the best they can, so I am indeed disappointed to see what may be an image of Optimus Prime as a different truck. I think the main disappointment is not so much the model, but the paint scheme (G2 Prime had the same model truck, but kept the basic colors).

    I think Scorponok is going to rock in this film, after what I read, which pretty much described how the scene changes to a desert landscape somewhere in the Middle East, there is a number of soldiers running from something underground, a tail emerges, and spears through each soldier one at a time, eventually wiping them all out. Later come to learn that it was Scorponok.
     
  18. Master_SweetPea

    Master_SweetPea Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Nov 18, 2002
    I am so relieved that the "Men of Metal" hoax by Mini was NOT a Transformers tie-in that I don't care how bad it is now.

    Imagine that all the characters were going to be Mini's created by an English, "Physics Professor", for the purpose of rescuing people from car accidents. (see below)
    [image=http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i134/hoppinglark/mini.jpg]






    Now think about what we've got coming.

    Which one would you rather have?

     
  19. Jedi_Master_Conor

    Jedi_Master_Conor Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    i think we'll be able to get a better picture of what's to come when we actually get a real teaser trailer or theatrical trailer for that matter which hopefully will show some transforming
     
  20. TIEPilot051999

    TIEPilot051999 Jedi Master star 7

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    Thank you for your generous contribution to the topic. :rolleyes:

     
  21. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    >> Do we have any idea on the Transformers to be used in the movie yet?<<

    A script review that was posted online of a script which was dated as being from this Feb had the following Transformers in it:

    Autobots:
    -Optimus Prime (truck)
    -Jazz (exotic car), as 1st Lt.
    -Ironhide (pickup truck), as weapons specialist.
    -Ratchet (ambulance), as medical officer.
    -Bumblebee (camaro).

    Decepticons:
    -Megatron (tank)
    -Starscream (Joint Strike Fighter)
    -Devastator (M-1 Abrams tank)
    -Bonescrusher (mine clearing construction-esque vehicle)
    -Vortex (MH-53 PAV special ops chopper)
    -Brawl (police car)
    -Scorponok (scorpion)
    -Soundwave (boombox- no mass shifting, so he's only 4.5 feet tall in bot mode)

    Now apparently the names in the script are temporary, though this seemingly applies to the Decepticons primarily. They sure as hell need to rename that tank, as people will be expecting the real Devastator in a sequel one day. I think we're likely to see a couple more TFs added in (see below).


    As for the truck pic, when Quint from AICN visted Bay's offices, there was mention of a sequence where Prime chases after a Decepticon truck and there's a truck vs truck battle. So maybe what this truck pic is is of the Decepticon truck. Another theory is that it's Rodimus Prime- but I can't see them squeezing the death of Optimus into the first movie of a franchise.

    And tough I don't care for the long nose style for Prime, I've been reading that they did do tests of a flatnosed Prime but found him to only be 20-30 feet tall, and they wanted Prime to be bigger so they got a bigger truck.
     
  22. TIEPilot051999

    TIEPilot051999 Jedi Master star 7

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    I thought it was an established fact that he wasn't going to be a boombox.
     
  23. anidanami124

    anidanami124 Jedi Master star 6

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    The fact that half the G1 characters transformer into something they never did before is what is making me dislike this movie even more and more.

    I mean really Megatron is a GUN not a tank. If they want to go by the comics then fine. They should just say it's not based on the G1 characters.

    Autobots:
    -Optimus Prime (truck) So far that's the only one they are getting right

    -Jazz (exotic car), as 1st Lt. Huh sense when was Jazz ever any exotic car?

    -Ironhide (pickup truck), as weapons specialist. A Pickup truck. he was never a Pickup Truck.

    -Ratchet (ambulance), as medical officer. Well two for two.

    -Bumblebee (camaro). Well I guess if they can't use a VW this is the next best thing.

    Decepticons:
    -Megatron (tank) Like I already said no just no.

    -Starscream (Joint Strike Fighter) A what? Can't they just make him a Jet Fighter.

    -Devastator (M-1 Abrams tank) For the love of god I really don't know any thing about Transformers G1. Devastator is bigger then Megatron. They need to either A) Change his name or bring on the Constructions.

    -Bonescrusher (mine clearing construction-esque vehicle) Explain this to me. You can have Devastator and one of the Constructions who from him. But you can't have the others. [face_plain]

    -Vortex (MH-53 PAV special ops chopper) Ok one of the combations that's cool and he's a helicopter cool. To bad there will be no Bruticus.

    -Brawl (police car) Oh so we get two of the Combaticons but on Brutics. On top of that Brawl goes from being a tank to a car. [face_plain]

    -Scorponok (scorpion) What the? :confused: Did they even read or even watch G1. Scorponoks did not even come around until Headmasters.

    -Soundwave (boombox- no mass shifting, so he's only 4.5 feet tall in bot mode)
    If they make him into anything else I will be mad. Oh and they are so there will be no:
    Frenzy, Rumble, Ravage, etc. [face_plain]
     
  24. TIEPilot051999

    TIEPilot051999 Jedi Master star 7

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    Oh, I'm sure that's a good reason to dislike a movie that's not even out yet. :rolleyes:
     
  25. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    >> I thought it was an established fact that he wasn't going to be a boombox.<<

    I suspect early on they were gonna have Soundwave be the "Vortex" character- a helicopter thatd eploys other smaller bots like Scorponok. But this script review claims otherwise, with Soundwave being aboard Air Force One at one point. (which kinda overall makes sense if they are gonna maintain Soundwave as an espionage/surveilance character)
    Other rumors say they are not including Soundwave at all now, and are saving him for the sequel so they can "get him right".


    >>The fact that half the G1 characters transformer into something they never did before is what is making me dislike this movie even more and more. I mean really Megatron is a GUN not a tank.<<

    Well, without mass shifting they don't have many other choices other than a cannon like Galvatron or a huge space gun like Shockwave.

    The War Within version of G1 Megatron made an effective tank design, though:

    [image=http://www.seibertron.com/images/comic/06/002.jpg] [image=http://www.tfclub.com/tffiles/pic/makotron/200303070003_4388.jpg]