Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen

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  1. Moylesy Jedi Master

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    No, it was a toy first.
  2. FatBurt Force Ghost

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    comic before toy, the cartoon was brough in at the same time as the toy the help advertise and sell
  3. halibut Chosen One

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    So what? What's the difference?
  4. A-Null Jedi Grand Master

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    A page and a half of threads on this and no one has even mentioned Megan Fox in hot pants, bending over a motorbike! I love her [face_love]

    I enjoyed the first movie because it was a throw back to my younger years. While some elements were not great, the action was pretty good.
  5. DarthArsenal6 Force Ghost

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  6. Black-Tiger Jedi Master

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    Megan Fox, great except for all those ugly chav tats.
  7. Moylesy Jedi Master

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    http://img38.imagehaven.net/img.php?id=GEKR9F7X5C_TFDIAC4b.jpg
    http://img39.imagehaven.net/img.php?id=73NM8PUTT2_tfdiac8b.jpg
    http://img38.imagehaven.net/img.php?id=5ATMU9ULSN_tfdiac10b.jpg

    Pages from a japanese TOY catalogue printed way before the Transformers comic was released.
  8. Moylesy Jedi Master

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    The difference being that those that I mentioned are works of art to the fans whereas the transformers cartoon was merely an advertising ploy.
  9. FatBurt Force Ghost

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    I'll have to take your word for that as I don't speak Japanese :p

    Everyting I'd read put it as comic before toy but I'm happy to be corrected
  10. Black-Tiger Jedi Master

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    Why do I get the feeling I'm being ignored? :(
  11. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    Megan Fox is very fine indeed, how she lost out in this year's FHM poll to Cheryl Cole is beyond me.
  12. Black-Tiger Jedi Master

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    All those tats are a right turn off for me, no matter what her face and bod look like.
  13. DarthArsenal6 Force Ghost

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    Tats ?
  14. halibut Chosen One

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    It may have been when it first started, but the cartoon and toys have achieved cult status since then which easily ranks up there with long running comic books.
  15. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    As modern times will show, definitions of what is art is pretty varied now.
    Transformers were very clever morphing robots, cleverly created and sculpted in their own way. The TV series was among one of the best cartoons produced in the 80s, so I'm sure there are those who deem it to be great work.
  16. Black-Tiger Jedi Master

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    Megan Fox is covered in them. She's even got a massive one right up her arm. You don't see them in the movies because I think they cover them up in skin coloured make-up.
  17. Moylesy Jedi Master

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    DA6 probably does not understand that "Tats" is a shortened form for Tattoo. As for them being covered with make-up, in the trailer her tattoo on her back is very badly covered up.
  18. Moylesy Jedi Master

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    :p Despite what the theme song says they are not actually robots.
  19. halibut Chosen One

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    What are they?

    According to the ever-reliabile Wiki article on robots

    "there is general agreement among experts and the public that robots tend to do some or all of the following: move around, operate a mechanical limb, sense and manipulate their environment, and exhibit intelligent behavior, especially behavior which mimics humans or other animals."
  20. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    Why aren't they robots?
    If Data, R2D2, T-800 and countless others are robots then how could the Transformers not be?

    They aren't exactly human or cyborg are they?
  21. halibut Chosen One

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  22. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    Isn't that just a human-like robot?
  23. halibut Chosen One

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    Maybe, but seeing as we're discussing specific terminologies, I thought it better to be more accurate ;)
  24. Moylesy Jedi Master

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    There you have the crux of the argument, the Transformers are sentient beings with complex emotions and do not mimic any other creature. R2-D2, Terminators, etc. were all created to perform specific duties (in the Terminators case mimicing human behaviour was paramount). As for Data, he was merely a robot who had a very high AI - even his emotion chip was just that, a chip. It's not unusual that the majority of stories based around Data centered on his desire to be human. Transformers, although they look like robots, are not.
  25. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    They look humanoid in their standard form, and Soundwave's minions mimic animals (as did the Transformers themselves in the Beast Wars era). They operate mechanical limbs and move around, I would say they are robots.
    Clever sentient robots like Data, but robots nonetheless.
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