JCC Transsexual/Transgender: The Thread

Mate honestly? Nobody gives a **** about your past. You are the one haunted by it.

This place can be brutal, but if you take the time to be part of the community they will one hundred percent have your back.

Your posts are basically:

* You went to a university in Texas that has professors you namedrop (and Mrs Fitzgerald)
* Here's anecdotes about said university
* Here's anecdotes about Hooters girls
* Here's anecdotes about your girlfriend
* Here's you making a snap judgement, and
* Here's you melting the **** down over being told you're wrong.

Nobody cares about your anecdotes and your past because you use them as crutches and shields. We're actually pretty indifferent to whatever people have done outside of this place, in that whatever baggage you - and we all - are carrying doesn't get you judged here unless you put it out there in a confrontational and antagonistic method. You basically invite people to dislike you by being inherently unlikeable for no reason. Don't?

So, yeah. Stop namedropping your university, your professors, all of it and try having opinions that define who, not what you are. Your time here will be a lot better and you might find that peace that seems to elude you in real life.

The above post will not be brought to you because of the ignore feature.

 

Happy to help

 

Fanks bruv

Seriously though, literally nobody here has been "ew, trans." Anyone who has would probably be psychologically tormented and driven away by the wider JC. So looking at the entire forum as a manifestation of Zola's "J'accuse!" letter is a projection of insecurities, not a reflection of reality and so long as that disconnect exists Satele is going to alienate and feel alienated. It's a wholly unfair proposition for both the wider JC and Satele.

 

You are wrong, Point Given. My humanity does matter. So does every single human being on this planet. You defended a bully attacking me, and I actually admitted a mistake, something that you haven't done. I do hope you have a nice life.

 

I think that cross-dressing is an art that anyone can do. I'm not an expert. I do know that drag queens are not necessarily transgender individuals.

I haven't seen Rocky Horror since 2003. I prefer not to watch it because my second girlfriend who raped me liked Rocky Horror. Sorry. Are you talking about the old time Rocky Horror? If Cox is in it, I assume you mean something new.

 

Right, but experts aren't a monolith and Izzard clearly blurs the line between those in his personal identity. It's just kind of silly to come into a thread about trans issues and, with your first post, pick a public figure no one else had been talking about and misgender him.

I assumed when I saw the news she had been cast that they were genderbending the character - just making Frank N Furter a woman. I am also making an assumption (which could be incorrect) that Laverne Cox wouldn't have taken the role if she had concerns about the gender presentation in the script or whatever treatment she had seen so far. I know trans actresses generally get put in difficult positions of being offered demeaning or problematic roles and having to make difficult decisions in accepting these roles, but I think Laverne Cox is in a position (both financially and as a well-known actress & activist) to turn down a role if she thought it was going to portray her gender in a harmful way.

Also the way dp4m originally stated it "someone brought up a good point today that it may be offensive to actual trans people " is classic concern troll language. If an actual trans person has concerns about it, I'd rather listen to that.

 

....so you have fatburt on block too or what?

 

I think it was a trans person, but your point is noted. I just generally trust the people here more than Rando io9 Commenter #23, which is why I asked.

 

PG never admits mistakes with me either.

All I want is "sorry Ender, I was wrong to ban you for those times you clearly broke the rules".

Do I get them?

No.

 

we need to talk about this. am I being mocked by restaurant staff all the time?

 

Hi, shall we please stop the way this is going and actually discuss trans issues?

This is making me uncomfortable...

 

Okay, first thing first: do not threaten the moderating team, especially if they are just doing their job. Who the hell do you think you are? And what the hell do you think this is? This counts for strikes one and two.

Second, and this goes for everyone: this is a really worthwhile thread, and I'd really hate to have to lock it because it becomes a clash of egos and personal issues.

 

Enough.

 

God yes. In our open kitchen, it can be a dead Tuesday afternoon or a 50 minute wait list Saturday night... Either way, we're busy making fun of crappy celebrity dopplegangers, gaudy bitches, loud bitches, kids who sit there doing weird things, people of all different nationalities, fat people, anorexic people, people on awkward dates and even servers. Especially servers.

It's basically the Cards Against Humanity version of Guess Who?

But in my experience, the servers are usually too busy complaining about tips/sidework/getting written up to join in on this.

I honestly sometimes I feel like I get paid to make fun of people.

 

I love David's orangey modness.

So seriously question:

Jezebel devoted a few hundred words to proving that they don't care about Ricky Gervais' Caitlyn Jenner jokes.

http://jezebel.com/ricky-gervais-loves-that-youre-offended-by-his-trans-jo-1752450014

Is this actually an issue though? Like, to me, it's just Gervais winding notoriously uptight celebrities up by taking the piss in the time honoured British tradition.

However, given that a large sector of our output these days is manufacturing brief outrage, I find I'm actually unable to get a sense of whether we have a real problem or just people finding something to hang their offended-weather coats on for a few hours.

halp?

 

It's whatever at this point. I moved on.

 

Satele it is not your prerogative to move on when you are the one who has hurt other people. You don't get to attack and dehumanize people and then say "I've moved on." because the people you have harmed probably have not moved on.

To me, the joke was more a low-hanging cheap shot at women drivers than it was about her being trans. Gervais specializes more in low-hanging cheap shots than he does in time-honoured taking the piss. I always found his standup (not necessarily his show-writing) to be way far down the less clever end of British comedians.

 

you can't see content from an ignored user even if that user is being quoted. It just won't show up in the unignored users post. For example, to me, it looks like dani is talking to herself.

 

All of you guys are over-analyzing this. Trip called me insane for talking about social constructions. If I genuinely hurt someone, I am sorry. Notice how I'm the only person who ever apologizes for anything. No one ever apologizes to me.

 

I am not a Jezebel writer!

 

That's basically what I thought; as I said, they spent a bit of time convincing us (or, themselves) they didn't care which is adorable but obviously not the case.

EDIT: lol, Todd. The ignore feature is so unintentionally fun as well as a crutch!

 

Satele, I'm sorry.

 

Actually, the only person I want to apologize to is Dobrolous, who has been sincerely pleading with us not to just be dicks, because they have things to figure out/share. I feel pretty bad that I've taken part in some general ****ery that's incidentally hurt someone who may need some help (and i'm not just saying thos to keep being troll-y, i do feel bad). I'm willing to not keep pushing buttons if it means we're going to have an actually productive discussion instead.

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