Speculation [TRON LEGACY'S legacy] Digitial youth for Luke, Han, and Leia?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by Aytee-Aytee, Nov 10, 2012.

  1. Aytee-Aytee Force Ghost

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    Back when TRON: LEGACY was released, much ado was made over the technical aspect of CGI facial mapping to erase thirty years from Jeff Bridges to play the megalomaniacal program CLU.2.0

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    Previously such attempts at making a character appear younger than the actor was done with creative makeup effects (Mr. Holland's Opus).

    What are the chances Disney will take this route? Will they do the Spielberg KotCS route and simply make the characters older (30 years after RotJ) or will they just use Tron's legacy to create an immediate post-ROTJ Reconstruction period?
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  2. EviL_eLF Force Ghost

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  3. KED12345 Force Ghost

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    If they actors consent to it, possibly.
  4. -NaTaLie- Force Ghost

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    Nonono, it looks bad.
  5. Plebeian Jedi Master

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    It would work for memory flashbacks or something, but it looks too artificial to have main characters based around it.
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  6. CT-867-5309 Force Ghost

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    I didn't like it in TRON: Legacy and didn't find it particularly convincing (though young Bridges being a program, not a real person, helps suspension of disbelief), so I would not be optimistic about its use in the ST.
  7. That Bad Huh Jedi Master

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    Well, I mean, Gollum looked better than Jar-Jar...these things do develop with time.

    But no, I don't see it happening, really.
  8. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    **** it, let's do the entire damn movie in CGI. No live actors needed.

    (There was actually a rumor along those lines about AOTC and ROTS.)
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  9. Jobertus Jedi Grand Master

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    That has never been a story telling device in the Star Wars films before and I doubt they will start during the Skywalker trilogies. If the big 3 appear, and I think they are going to, they will appear exactly as old as they currently are and no younger. In the films beyond the ST, this is an entirely different deal, anything can happen in those films.
  10. Ichor_Razor Force Ghost

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  11. NoChesterHester Jedi Master

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    Eh... Why not just write a story where gimmicks aren't required?

    I think the Star Wars movies are way too interwoven anyway. Every single event doesn't have to be connected. Right?
  12. ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio

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    Digital Domain's work on that film was much less successful than digital de-aging existing footage. Look at X-Men 6, Capt. America's Steve Rogers, and Benjamin Button's Cate Blanchette character. Lola fx did the work on those and did a terrific job.
    Basically, they use skin grafting and give existing footage of actors a more youthful appearance, up to 25-30 years. CLU in Tron Legacy was a CG head on top of a actor's body and looked weird.

    So yes to de-aging but no to CG modeling. Not there yet. Plus, I want tha actual actors in the scenes, not that CG stuff not ready for prime-time.
  13. JediKnightOB1 Force Ghost

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    So far the Star Wars movies have not resorted to "Flash-backs." I don't think they are going to start now.
  14. Jedsithor Force Ghost

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    Am I the only one who wants Han, Luke and Leia to be old?

    One of the big elements of Star Wars is that it's about generations. Going way back to when Lucas first talked about sequels, he talked about how each trilogy was about a different generation. I want to see where these characters are 30 years later.
  15. ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio

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    Well, they could be older Luke Han and Leia. We simply dont know. I will be jazzed either way.

    I really don't care. I just know we're getting more Star Wars! [face_dancing]
  16. lord_eidolon Force Ghost

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    They're going to be old. Accept it.
  17. Jason79 Jedi Master

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    What's so wrong with having them be old? Stallone did it for Rambo and Rocky and that worked out pretty well.
    We already know they aren't doing the thrawn thing so obviously they'll have to be older.
  18. ThatWanFromStewjon Jedi Grand Master

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    Sooner or later everyone finds common ground. ;)
  19. ThatWanFromStewjon Jedi Grand Master

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    I don't see how this can even be the remotest possibity.

    Only in a flashback, and Star Wars doesn't do flashbacks.

    I guess visions are flashforwards and flashsidways but the audience doesn't see them either.
  20. aguywithabiggun Force Ghost

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    Most likely the new trilogy will wrap up the stories of Han, Leia and Luke so that a new start can be made post IX. So I would expect them to appear just as they are.
  21. artooo Jedi Master

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    Agreed, besides with makeup, lighting, camerawork they can make all of them look much younger if they really need to.
  22. TtheForceHurts Force Ghost

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    I want the big 3 to be old, but if they plan to bring back OB1 I would like to have a CGI Alec Guiness force ghost rather than an Ewan MC Gregor one. Ewan should voice him though...
  23. Master Hamahiga Jedi Master

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    I agree, A cgi Guinness would interesting if it looked believable with Ewan recording the dialogue .Although, some may view it as sacrilege since he is an iconic character who has passed. I can see both signs of the issue.
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  24. Cantina Bassist Jedi Master

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    No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no
  25. Disciple-of-Tython Force Ghost

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    Kill it with Force lightning!!
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