Truncated Posts

Discussion in 'Communications' started by Grimby, Sep 2, 2012.

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  1. mavjade It's so FLUFFY! Fanfic & New Movies Manager

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    We've said that you are free to do so, and if you return it to the exact way it was when the save was made (as in you have an exact copy of the way it was posted here) then it will remain the same. But if you go in and edit lines you realise you didn't like or change anything from the way it was saved when the back up was made then it will of course revert back to the way it was saved. Some people don't want to go in and do that because it would be a lot of work, and that's fine. Some people have since changed some things and don't want to go back and change it again. Others have gone in and edited their stories back in. It's all up to what you want to do.


    As for saving things, and then losing the physical copies. This is why it is also a good idea to back things up in other ways, email, your own website, fanfic.net, AO3, LiveJournal, etc.
    I'm very sorry for those who have lost work, I understand what that means, I've lost work due to a HD crash and it really sucks. But we warned for over a year that it was a possiblilty that things might get lost and people should prepare. We are doing our best to get that info back, and believe me I want it too... there are so many awesome stories that deserve to be read and those people may have moved on to other things or are no longer with us, but we can only do what we can do.
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  2. Jedi_Lover Chosen One

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    I would go back and fix things, but we were also told that if and when the truncation issue is fixed it is unknown whether all of the question marks and other weird symbols will disappear or not. You could end up having to go back a second time and fixing everything again. When you have a 125K word story with maybe 50 chapters it will take a long time to repair everything a second time. If a computer whiz that knows the problem can say the question marks will go away along with the truncation, then I think fanfic writers might take the time to repost.

    Personally I don't think it will ever be fixed. My suggestion is if a writer has their stories posted on a second site they should put the link in their signature. Another suggestion is for the moderators to allow the reposting of the story in a new thread. This way you don't have to worry about things changing.
    Last edited by Jedi_Lover, May 28, 2014
  3. mavjade It's so FLUFFY! Fanfic & New Movies Manager

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    That, I don't that we can say either way, or at least I don't know. I realise that it's a pain for those really long fics and your suggestion to linking really is the best one.

    As for allowing reposts, we have been allowing that and as is the case when anything gets reposted, it should say that it is a repost and we ask that people space them out if they are doing more than one so not to overtake the entire first page.
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  4. jcgoble3 Force Ghost

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    Two years without a fix.

    What, exactly, is going on here?
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  5. Ramza JC Head Admin and RPF Manager

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    Grimby's working on it when he has time to work on it.
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  6. Iiridayn Jedi Padawan

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    I'm a web dev, briefly between jobs (5 years experience with PHP, MySQL, etc). Can I help? If nothing else I might commiserate.
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  7. Ghost Chosen One

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  8. JEDIFLYSWATTER Force Ghost

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    I really do hope that this is fixed. Even for our TFN family members who are know longer with us. Such as RebelMom. She was such a kind person and a fantastic writer. Went back to read some of her stories and so much was missing. To me it is not fair and disrespectful to such a special lady that was a very strong member of the TFN family. I know I miss her contribution and her kind spirit. Okay vented enough. Thanks.:)
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  9. A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Riot Deterrent

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    Great news! All anyone has to do in order to not have their posts cut off
  10. Random Comments Force Ghost

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    Haven't we already done that joke approximately three hundred
  11. Binder-lover Force Ghost

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    I recently went back to try and read fanfics and was sad when it got cut off too. :( The Internet Archive helped in some cases, but not everything--it helped with this thread, but not this one.
  12. DaenaBenjen42 Force Ghost

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    May 15, 2005
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    Yeah... the Wayback Machine can be hit or miss. (And the truncated posts thing is being worked on. Right, mods?)
  13. Laine_Snowtrekker Force Ghost

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    The Wayback Machine is limited as to when it crawled the site. Which is why, in some cases, you can get chapters and chapters of a fic, but then in the middle of it you get "We've moved" messages. Also, you can't search the Wayback Machine for a particular user. (Which is why I haven't recovered fics of mine. I think I printed them out, but I haven't found them in the physical realm either.)

    But Internet Archive is right on the frontier of doing digital preservation and web archiving. They're pretty cool people.
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  14. Rew Force Ghost

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    You all do realize the truncated posts are never coming back by this point, right?
  15. pronker Force Ghost

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    We are True Believers. We believe that honest effort is being made. Life is sweeter that way. :)
  16. A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Riot Deterrent

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    I suppose we could ask Big Brother for a copy. It's not like they haven't saved every dumb thing we have ever posted over the internet.
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  17. Shaindl Force Ghost

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    That's the most likely case, but I think most of us would like an official recognition from the mods of that so we can kill off whatever last remaining shreds of hope we may have.

    So how about it mods? Can we finally have an answer one way or another? Please?
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  18. jcgoble3 Force Ghost

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    Please don't be that cruel. Let me hope for them to be recovered until the day that I die.
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  19. LadyPadme Manager Emeritus

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    I feel the same way. I almost wish the mods/admins would just come out and say "sorry, we tried but it looks like it's never going to happen" than to keep stringing us along. :(
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  20. harpua Chosen One

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    Guys... your posts are gone. Move on, and save your work in a way that you can access it, moving forward.
  21. Irish_Jedi_Jade Force Ghost

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    Mods?? [face_dunno]

    I found a couple of my stories on the wayback machine, which was a total rush! But of course, my favorite one is nowhere to be found....

    Any news? Words? Ideas? Thoughts? [face_nail_biting][face_nail_biting][face_nail_biting][face_nail_biting][face_nail_biting][face_nail_biting]

    [face_good_luck] Irish
  22. Barriss_Coffee Chosen One

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    Jun 29, 2003
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    I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but when I was last in MS the situation was "technically we should be able to get them back, but we don't know how." I got the impression that Grimby was optimistic, insomuch that they did exist, or at least theoretically should have been moved with everything else, but that for one reason or another that was not determined by the time that I left, the Xenforo boards just weren't showing them.

    If that's top secret MS news, mods feel free to edit at will. I figure this is such old news that it's probably obsolete. At that time I recall Grimby and others were actively working on it, because they really did think those posts could be saved.
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  23. harpua Chosen One

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    Okay... everybody repeat after me... FLASH DRIVE.


    ... or if you want to use being old as an excuse... FLOPPY DISC
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  24. JediSmuggler Force Ghost

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    I also feel strung along - and hurt by this. There were a couple of RoundRobin fanfics I was involved in ("Reception Following Weapons Check at the Door" and "Forget the Present, Just Give Him the Box"). While a number of my posts are saved, the other parts of the fic are chopped up.
  25. harpua Chosen One

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    Hurt? They have no control over this. I'm sure they've tried to fix it... obviously they haven't been able to.

    It's probably time to own that, MS. Let these people know you tried but failed (failing isn't the end of the world... it happens), so they can move on, and the thread can be closed.

    Edit, I feel I should clarify... I'm not condemning MS for 'failing.' Technology is unreliable. You did what you could, and were unable to fix the issue. Again, it's not the end of the world. I think it's now time to let these people know, so that they can get over it and move on.
    Last edited by harpua, Mar 18, 2015
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